1. A Vision for Downtown’s Revival:
Nina Trasoff, C.T. Revere, and Glenn Lyons share their perspectives on the transformative years of 2005–2009, detailing how they tackled the economic challenges of the time and redefined what downtown Tucson could be.

2. The Streetcar’s Impact:
Discover how the modern streetcar became a cornerstone of Tucson’s revitalization, connecting key areas like the University of Arizona, Fourth Avenue, and downtown. The streetcar didn’t just improve transportation—it set the stage for economic growth and community engagement.

3. Preserving Tucson’s Heritage:
Hear heartfelt reflections on the importance of honoring Tucson’s cultural and architectural history. From protecting the legacy of the barrios to incorporating art and culture into the revitalization plans, the visionaries worked to ensure the city’s soul was never lost in the process.

4. Overcoming Challenges:
The episode dives into the practical and emotional hurdles of the streetcar project, from funding and planning during the Great Recession to navigating complex regulations and rallying community support.

5. Building for the Future:
Learn how the streetcar created opportunities for businesses, strengthened community connections, and laid the groundwork for a vibrant, thriving downtown that continues to evolve.

Don’t Miss the Insights!

Tune in to hear how a bold vision, teamwork, and respect for history turned a struggling downtown into the thriving heart of the Old Pueblo.

Between 2005 and 2009, downtown Tucson stood at a crossroads, facing significant challenges but brimming with potential. In this episode of Life Along the Streetcar, we explore how a small group of visionaries dared to reimagine Tucson’s urban core. Former City Council members Nina Trasoff and C.T. Revere, along with Glenn Lyons, the former CEO of the Downtown Tucson Partnership, reflect on their collaborative efforts to reinvigorate the city during a period marked by economic uncertainty. At the heart of their efforts was a transformative project: the modern streetcar.

Through candid stories and behind-the-scenes insights, Nina, C.T., and Glenn recount the challenges of bringing the streetcar project to life, from navigating bureaucratic red tape to addressing community concerns. They also discuss the larger goal of balancing Tucson’s cherished heritage with the need to create a vibrant, connected future.

The Streetcar: Connecting History and Progress
The introduction of the streetcar became more than just a transportation solution—it symbolized a new era for Tucson. Glenn Lyons shares how the streetcar was envisioned as a way to bridge the city’s cultural, educational, and economic hubs, connecting the University of Arizona, Fourth Avenue, downtown, and beyond. This initiative was a critical step in fostering economic growth, attracting businesses, and encouraging residential development in the urban core.

Nina Trasoff and C.T. Revere reflect on the importance of preserving Tucson’s unique identity throughout this transformation. The team worked to ensure the streetcar project honored the “Old Pueblo,” respecting the city’s rich cultural and architectural history while creating pathways for innovation. Their dedication to inclusive, community-focused planning set the foundation for a downtown that feels authentic to Tucson’s roots while embracing modern needs.

A Legacy That Moves Us Forward
As you walk along the bustling streets of downtown Tucson today, the impact of these visionaries is evident. From thriving businesses to vibrant cultural events, the streetcar has become a lifeline, connecting people and communities in ways once thought impossible. Their efforts remind us of the power of collaboration and bold thinking in shaping a city’s future.

So next time you hop aboard the streetcar, take a moment to appreciate the vision of Nina Trasoff, C.T. Revere, and Glenn Lyons. Their determination has left an indelible mark on Tucson, inspiring us all to dream big while staying true to our heritage.

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Tom Heath
Good morning. It’s another beautiful Sunday in the old Pueblo. And you’re listening to Katy. Tucson. Thank you for spending a part of your brunch hour with us on your downtown Tucson community. Sponsored, all volunteer powered rock n roll radio station. Let’s make sure we’re going to take a deep dive into a pivotal era for downtown Tucson. Today, we’re joined by three key players who helped shape the city’s transformation during the late 2000.

Tom Heath
We have former City Council member Nina Trace off her chief of staff, C.T. Rivera and Glenn Lyons, who headed up the downtown Tucson partnership around that time. And together in the interview, they’re going to reflect on the challenges, triumphs and behind the scenes moments that defined Tucson’s revitalization efforts. Focusing on 2005 to 2009. Well, today is January 19th, 2025.

Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
So much going on. Don’t have time to talk about all of it. And Dillinger Days happening today. We got Jazz Festival, tomorrow’s Martin Luther King Day, and the free festival downtown with free jazz concerts. So much, so much happening. And I want to take you back to 2005, when not a lot of this was happening and we were trying to find our way forward.

Tom Heath
It was a tough time, as we got into the economic crash of the housing bust in 2008, money dried up, development dried up, the tax revenues dried up. So there was some challenges. And I happen to run into a gentleman. Kte Rivera works in the Pima counties. The Pima County Attorney’s Office at this point. But back in 2006, he was the chief of staff for then council member Nina Trace off.

Tom Heath
And he and I started talking about those times and the work that he, you know, trace off. And then at the time, the head of the downtown to some partnership was Gwen Lyons. Some of the things that they were working on, some of the vision, not all that worked out the way we thought, and some of it worked out exactly as a plan.

Tom Heath
Thought it’d be fun to get the three of them back together. They happen to all be in the same city for a very brief time, and they came down to our show, saw our studios there, and recorded this interview. It’s a two part series today, so we’re going to start off with the, the audio interview here.

Tom Heath
We’ll finish it up next week. And of course, have the video on our website for you to watch as well. But this is I need to trace off Glen Lyons and CT Revere. So I want to welcome the three of you to the show has got Glen Lyons. Nina trace asked Revere. Our conversation today is going to be a lot about some of the transitional time we had in Tucson from, pretty much before 2010.

Tom Heath
A lot of things happening in that timeline. CTU kind of brought us all together. How do how do we all know each other?

C.T. Revere
Okay. Thanks, Tom. Well, I was, I was a newspaper reporter here in Tucson for the last ten years. Ten of the last 12 years. The Tucson Citizen was publishing and I knew Nina through through that. And, you know, we she ran some political campaigns, and I got to know her. And, one day, she, she asked me if I would come into her office, and I figured she wanted.

C.T. Revere
I was a columnist at that time. I figured she wanted to talk to me about a column, but instead she asked me, have you ever thought about doing anything different? And I was like, sure. I just don’t know what. And she invited me to come and be her chief aide. And it took me about 48 hours to say yes.

C.T. Revere
And it was a great decision. And so Nina was one year into her term when I joined her staff and then Glen Lyons when we, once we were a couple of years into the to the term the downtown Tucson Alliance was was pretty specifically a clean and safe operation. And we we knew that we needed somebody who knew how to do some economic development work.

C.T. Revere
And we met Glenn through, the folks who ran the Royal Elizabeth Inn on Scott Avenue. They introduced Glenn to us, and we all talked and agreed and brought him down here to, to run into, to run the newly renamed downtown Tucson partnership.

Tom Heath
Fantastic. Well, so, Nina, you you were, prior to running for city council, you had a pretty established career here on air. What on earth led you to decide? I wanted to to be in city council at the time. Well, I.

Nina Trasoff
Had left the air a few years before that. I was at Kagan as a reporter and an anchor for nine years. And then I moved over to University Medical Center, and I did their news communications for two and a half years. Okay. And that was exciting and wonderful and exhausting. And I, started my own consulting business and was quite content with that.

Nina Trasoff
And somebody said, did you ever think? And I hadn’t, and it sounded intriguing as one more thing to try in my life. And I really wanted to make a difference. And I came to Tucson in 1976 for the job at Kagan, with the intention of getting out as fast as I could and getting back to Los Angeles, where I lived.

Nina Trasoff
Okay. And I fell in love with Tucson. I fell in love with starting the mountains and the beautiful, clean air because of smog in Tucson and LA at that time. And then with the man who became my husband for 45 years before I lost him. And this is where we wanted to raise our kids, and I wanted to I felt it was incumbent on me to try and make a difference if I had the skills to do it, to at least put my name out there and try it.

Nina Trasoff
And it was a heck of a ride that I.

Tom Heath
I can understand that. And it’s interesting that you chose to stay because at that time, you know, a lot of people were graduating from the U of A, and the joke was, we’re going to hold the graduation at the airport because people were leaving. But the fact that you stayed and fell in love with Tucson, that’s that’s fantastic.

Nina Trasoff
But also lived life. In my 20s, I had a completely different life, which is not relevant to this, but it was just that I had done so many things, and I came here and started at age 30, and I was at that time in my life that I wanted a home. And boy, is this a great home. Yeah.

Tom Heath
Fantastic. And and, Glen, you’d come and I remember. What was it from Calgary or. That’s right. Yeah. You’d come here and then some economic development in other areas as well. Yeah. I had been working in Calgary for. Better part of 30 years. Downtown city planner. I built, public works projects for the Olympics and I ran the local downtown partnership.

Tom Heath
A lot of economic development work there. Very different style, very different city. And I was looking for a change. I, I have American citizenship. I grew up in Detroit, and I started looking around for cities in the States that could use my assistance. And, my wife and I, came down to Tucson, just for a long weekend.

Tom Heath
We stayed at the Royal is, shifted deck work area. Was a city planner, born in Tucson, and we connected. And he suggested that I go meet some people. And the next thing you know, I’m. I’m, starting to run what became the Downtown Tucson partnership. And it was a different, a totally different place to work and a and a very different ride.

Tom Heath
I mean, in Calgary, with the oil economy, it’s much like Houston. We had our ups and downs. I’ve been through boom and bust a lot, but no one had seen a bust like we did in 2008. And so that was my starting point. It’s interesting. I’m learning something here. Be careful when you, make recommendations, because all three of you got this sort of whisper of something you never thought you were going to be doing.

Tom Heath
Yeah. Ended up together here. So thanks for thanks for those, like, they gave you that little encouragement. And I remember Glenn reading in a little bit preparation for this year, your comment talking about where Tucson could be. And there were a lot of different thoughts on economic development and, and people were bringing up cities that might have had it kind of like you were talking about in your area, or they might have had a different economic base or something where they could really build on businesses or, or different opportunities, economically.

Tom Heath
And your quote was, we have to brand downtown much more as an arts, history and culture destination. Yeah, actually, as I was leaving, in 2010, I, I wrote a strategic plan for downtown called Building the New Pueblo. We call downtown the Old Pueblo. But you have to put new life in into your history or it declines to.

Tom Heath
And so it was a matter of trying to make downtown a better, more contemporary place where more people would want to come work with play, and the like without losing the charm of old. Yeah. And, the recession made it difficult for us to do anything. But that’s the time when you start to put the pieces in place.

Tom Heath
And Real Nuevo had given us a blueprint of the like, and so we had to find ways to start with no private investment during the crash and very little government money, because the Rio Nuevo bonds hadn’t been sold yet. Yeah, I think it’s just from a listening perspective. If you don’t remember, 2005 and six, we had this sort of real estate boom, and then oh eight it came crashing down.

Tom Heath
And, you know, nationally, I remember listening to the Treasury Secretary on a Friday saying, if we don’t pass the stimulus bill, we might not have an economy on Monday. And that was a challenging time nationally. And then also Tucson at that time was going through somewhat of an identity crisis, trying to figure out who we wanted to be when we grew up.

Nina Trasoff
And jump off of what was then was saying the new pueblo versus the old pueblo. I wanted to be sure that we learned the lessons of the past. And as we move forward to create the new pueblo that we respected, the old Pueblo, something that hadn’t been done during the downtown revitalization, that gave us the convention center and destroyed the barrio, just completely destroyed the barrio, and a whole community and way of life that was so rich.

Nina Trasoff
And I wanted to make sure that as we move forward, we respected that and use that as our foundation and built from that rather than wiping that out. And let’s start over.

Tom Heath
That Nina trace off. She was council member, in Tucson here from 2005 to 2009. She’s also joined by her then chief of staff, Katie Revere, and the CEO of the Downtown Tucson Partnership at the time, Glenn Lyons. Kind of talking through the, the, the stories in the moments that kind of helped to shape transformation here in Tucson, in the downtown urban core.

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Tom Heath
All right. So if you’re just joining us, we’ve got, three guests today. We recorded an interview with Anita Trace off her. She was the, former city council member from 2005 to 2009. And then her chief of staff, city Revere, and then Glenn Lyons, who was the CEO of the downtown Tucson Partnership around that time as well.

Tom Heath
And we’re just kind of talking through, some reminiscence, reminiscing about that time in Tucson and some of the challenges and some of the successes that came from that. It’s gonna end up being a two part series. So we’re going to cover some more here in the next, 10 to 15 minutes, and then we’ll finish up the interview on the next Sunday show.

Tom Heath
I would have to think that you’re somewhat pleased at how we’re, well, honoring, even though we haven’t necessarily. We can’t go back and replace the barrio, but we’re honoring them in different ways and trying to make sure we understand now where we came from.

Nina Trasoff
Yes. And and with the arts organizations. I mean, Glenn was talking about how important that is. That was important to me. My background I have is I used to be a professional dancer. I mean, the arts. Yeah, the arts for my life in New York and in Los Angeles.

Tom Heath
Okay.

Nina Trasoff
So that’s how I was raised. That’s who I was. And I wanted that to be an essential part of what set us apart. And we have so many outstanding for for a city our size to have a ballet, theater company, a symphony, the museums. It’s extraordinary the quality of those things.

Tom Heath
It absolutely. We’ve talked to to many people within those groups and the level of recognition Tucson gets, the type of talent they attract just continues to grow, because a lot of people are surprised that in Tucson. And yet we do have quite the talent pool to, to to, reach into the Friends of Chamber Music here is an incredible resource.

Tom Heath
I think they’ve commissioned more new works than anyone else in North America. Yeah, we had them on the show, not probably a couple of years ago. And they were they were focusing on, Ukrainian composers at the time, trying to, to, and they brought some someone local that had a Ukrainian background that had just created a new piece and they were broadcasting that out to the world and then finding, you know, again, just to me, like it’s just amazing that you can just create something like that and bring it out to the world.

Tom Heath
I don’t know, I just assume classical music is always out there. Nothing is ever new. But, so we.

Nina Trasoff
Had those of the university. I’m sorry if you talking about the university is part of all of this, and it is such a training ground, the arts department there, when I serve on the dance board, I have for for many years, and the quality of the program is ranked in the top five in the nation. Here in Tucson.

Nina Trasoff
And a lot of these dancers stay, and a lot of them go on to New York, and a lot of them go on to Los Angeles and Vegas, but to major companies. But we have an outstanding dance department and music department and theater department, and then all the smaller nonprofits in this town to very strong community. And that’s what we talked about in building up the downtown, making sure that that was an integral part of our planning process.

Tom Heath
Not to get too far off track, but with a lot of the nonprofits. And when it comes to the arts, what I’m learning is that it’s not just about the the artistic side, it’s also about the diversity side and bringing the arts to, to, to demographics that might not normally have that exposure and making sure that everyone has an opportunity to participate.

Tom Heath
That’s not just downtown. I think that’s Tucson in general, but that does stem from that same feeling on. That’s where the case with the Latino community, because there’s a rich cultural heritage here and many generations of Mexican Americans, living in Tucson. And if you’re not careful, you miss it, particularly if you’re a snowbird coming in for the winter.

Tom Heath
And so to the extent that you as you develop your downtown and you build up your events and your institutions, you need to make sure that you that you haven’t forgotten about those roots because they’re critical to the image of the city.

C.T. Revere
I’d like to I’d like to. With that in mind, go back to the discussion about the barrios as being such an important part of our heritage and heritage in Tucson. While it’s, you know, certainly regrettable and worth remembering, what happened to some of the barrios went through with the TCC and everything, which really started with I-10 dividing downtown back in the 60s.

C.T. Revere
But the barrios that we have now, as you know, because you lived in one of them, as do I, they are celebrated globally. I mean, the recognition that those neighborhoods are getting from from publications and, and broadcasts and just, you know, the just the attention is really, really rewarding.

Tom Heath
And big publications like New York Times, the Times Traveler.

C.T. Revere
Yes.

Tom Heath
Yeah, yeah.

C.T. Revere
Yeah, the New York Times. It seems like they have somebody out here about every month or two.

Tom Heath
Not in the summer. No, not.

C.T. Revere
So that’s why they’re smarter than that.

Tom Heath
Yeah. So we have a lot of really good plans. We have a tough economic climate in which to operate I think from like a, an actionable standpoint. I mean, what we’re like, how do you go about getting some of these things through when when you don’t have any money and you’ve got really good ideas, but you’re making a transformative effort.

C.T. Revere
And if I may, when, when I and this is this, you know, predates Glenn’s arrival when it was you know, this is about 2007 when I joined Nina’s staff and all I had ever been was a reporter and of course, reporters. We all think we know everything. But then you get involved in government, you see how things work and you realize how really complex it is.

C.T. Revere
And one of the most common phone calls that I receive, because one of the one of the the areas that I was responsible for, for Nina’s direction was, was land use. It and development services. So I was getting phone calls on a very regular basis from people who had and found a property in Tucson that was the perfect, their dream spot for starting the business that they wanted to start.

C.T. Revere
And they were well invested in it. And all of a sudden, they’re finding obstacles in the way that had much to do with things like parking requirements based on the adaptive reuse of existing buildings. You know, when when a building is built, for one thing, they in probably when a lot of them were built, there wasn’t a lot of thought to the regulatory environment.

C.T. Revere
So but but then there was an expectation if you had a, if you had a business that was once a bakery that had, you know, a half a dozen employees, but then it was turned into a restaurant or a print shop or whatever, it changes the the need for people to leave their cars when they come to work or when they, when they, when they show up to be a customer.

C.T. Revere
And, you know, it was most of the time it was more onerous than, than the original, the original requirement. And it was just wasn’t tenable. You can’t create new parking in in buildings that exist because, you know, the land is what it is. So I was I was hearing from these folks on a regular basis, and I was, you know, I felt for them, we we need small businesses to succeed.

C.T. Revere
And we wanted you know, we wanted people to succeed in Tucson. So I went to a fellow named Jesse Sanders, who was the deputy director of the Development Services Department. And I said, Jesse, I’m getting these phone calls. You know what? What can we do? And he smiled and said, I have been waiting for a council aide to ask me this question for a long time, and he explained to me how they, you know, there were a lot of discussions in, you know, in the meeting rooms at City Hall and in development services about the land use code and how the certificate of occupancy feeds the land Use Code and how the certificate of

C.T. Revere
occupancy is required to get a business license. And I said, well, it’s good that we’re talking about it in, in, you know, in, in closed doors, but let’s put it in front of people because that’s how you make things happen. And so we put together a stakeholder group that was really largely a function of the small business, commission that the city had.

C.T. Revere
And we started working with them to find ways to to narrow down the requirements, especially for the downtown area, because that it was it was so important that you not have this onerous parking requirement for people to open a business. And, so and that was a tough process, in part because the a lot of the business operators that were part of the stakeholder group had been operating businesses for a long time, and for one reason or another, they were never required to get a C of O in order to get their business license.

C.T. Revere
So while we’re trying to make the process easier for them, they’re seeing a process that was never there before, and it became a very, very difficult, you know, public process to, to get through. But ultimately what we did is we, we, we created the, the less onerous requirements, really trying to focus specifically on health and safety issues.

C.T. Revere
And the Five Points market was our test place.

Tom Heath
Okay?

C.T. Revere
We were there. They were the folks who, that now we’re looking to start a market, the Ethiopian restaurant in a coffee roasting business and under the old, you know, parking codes, they would have had to have, you know, a fields of parking for all that stuff. But of course, it’s not there because they’re at the junction of five historic neighborhoods.

C.T. Revere
So we use that and, and obviously you can see how well that worked because it’s a very popular spot we had, we had brunch there the other day. And so anyway that’s, that’s kind of the role that I played early on. And based on that, Nina had a different aide at the time who was working on downtown redevelopment.

C.T. Revere
And because these two things were so linked, she asked me if I would take over being her point person on on downtown development.

Nina Trasoff
But we had to take all of these things into. He’s talking about one really critically important aspect of that. But then we had to look at how do we tie all of this together, and that was an essential part of it. But so was getting people here and so was the focus on it being a downtown. And what did that mean to that?

Nina Trasoff
How far east did that go? How far west did that go? Then came the streetcar concept, which was really rough. And it was I mean, I guess my role in all of that was looking at all of these individual aspects and figure out how do we tie this together with the ribbon and how do we get it passed through through my colleagues and get community support?

Tom Heath
Yeah, it well, in your ward six. So just to be clear, it’s not downtown and Ward six is.

Nina Trasoff
No, I have no more six with downtown.

Tom Heath
No, but it wasn’t just downtown. Oh I know, yeah I.

Nina Trasoff
Know, I mean, my other pet project was just to throw out. There was the zoo. Oh, yeah. And saving the elephants at the zoo. And that was another battle that I was doing at the same time that I was working with these guys.

Tom Heath
So it’s not like you can put all of your energies into this. Just this one. Oh, no. No, no. Guess you guys, when.

Nina Trasoff
You’re on council, respect the council members. They’re dealing with your issue and this and this and this and that.

Tom Heath
And it also looking at a at a way that makes sense because as your as Ward six goes in, you’re into Fourth Avenue and you’re into the university. You’ve got other you know, and so I have some of the historical issues, but you’ve got the density issues, the parking issues, the business issues.

Nina Trasoff
You also have the development issues in that it was easy. It would have been easy to just focus on the greater downtown area, but we just felt that it needed to also include the university area. Right. How do you tie the university in to the downtown? And then you’ve got the barriers, what’s left of them, and then you have the west side, which is in some need, such need of revitalization.

Nina Trasoff
And, Regina Romero and I, our current mayor, she represented the West Side, Ward one, and we went behind between working closely together to battle and then finding the way to work closely together, and ended up as a great partner in the battle, was the streetcar had to go from the university through downtown. But when do we build the west side of it?

Nina Trasoff
Right. And she said, now, and I said, no, we need to get that. And so we ended up with a compromise of most of the economic development would be focused downtown, because that’s where the money would come from. But the streetcar would it would be part of the initial plan so that the west side could be drawn into it.

Nina Trasoff
And you’ve seen the wonderful stuff that’s being done west of the freeway.

Tom Heath
That was former council member Nina Trace off. We’ve been interviewing with her, her chief of staff at the time, Katie Revere and, Glenn Lyons, who was the CEO of the downtown to some partnership around that same time, going up to around 2009, 2008, 2009. The second part of this interview will air next Sunday. You can hear we’re kind of talking through, that streetcar and, and and bringing it to the West Side and how important that was.

Tom Heath
We’ll pick the interview up there next Sunday and wrap it up. And of course, at that point you can catch all of it on lifelong streetcar.org. We also were, dismissed video for this, shoot as well. And I will have that out. But right now I want to remind you that my name is Tom Heath, and you are listening to life along the streetcar in downtown Radio at 9.1 FM and streaming on downtown radio.org.

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Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
And we’re going to leave you today with Anya Taylor-Joy with her version of a Petula Clark classic. It’s from her 2021 movie Last Night in Soho. Here’s a downtown. I hope you have a great week and tune in next Sunday for more life along the streetcar.