A Look Back Pt. 2: The Milestones That Shaped Tucson’s Revival

1. The Streetcar as a Game-Changer
Dive into the story of how the modern streetcar became the cornerstone of Tucson’s downtown revitalization. Learn how this pivotal project connected neighborhoods like the University of Arizona, Fourth Avenue, and downtown, while spurring economic growth and fostering community pride.

2. The Fourth Avenue Underpass: A Gateway to Progress
Discover the story behind the transformation of the Fourth Avenue underpass, turning a cramped, outdated passage into a welcoming and pedestrian-friendly gateway. Hear how collaboration and bold vision helped this project redefine the entry into downtown Tucson.

3. Legacy Reflections from the Visionaries
Former City Council members Nina Trasoff and C.T. Revere, along with Glenn Lyons, reflect on their personal connections to downtown’s transformation. From living in the revitalized Armory Park to visiting Tucson annually to witness its evolution, their stories provide a human perspective on the challenges and triumphs of shaping the city.

4. Pioneering Projects That Shaped Tucson
Explore the Scott Avenue streetscape project and other key developments that made downtown a walkable, inviting destination. Hear how strategic decisions, like integrating the west side into the streetcar plan, ensured Tucson’s progress was inclusive and far-reaching.

5. Looking Ahead: Tucson’s Bright Future
Glenn Lyons describes downtown as a “puzzle,” with new pieces falling into place every year. Hear how the principles of arts, culture, and history continue to guide Tucson’s growth, ensuring the city maintains its charm while embracing the future.

This episode showcases the vision, teamwork, and resilience that transformed Tucson’s downtown into the vibrant hub it is today. Don’t miss these highlights that tell the story of progress, pride, and endless possibilities for the Old Pueblo.

In this final installment of our two-part series, Life Along the Streetcar continues its exploration of the transformative years between 2005 and 2009, focusing on the milestone projects that defined Tucson’s downtown revival. Former City Council members Nina Trasoff and C.T. Revere, alongside Glenn Lyons, the former CEO of the Downtown Tucson Partnership, share how bold decisions and collaborative efforts turned vision into reality.

One of the cornerstone achievements discussed in this episode is the introduction of the streetcar, which reshaped Tucson by connecting neighborhoods, spurring economic development, and attracting both residents and businesses to the urban core. As Nina and Glenn reflect, the streetcar wasn’t just a transportation project—it was a symbol of hope and a physical manifestation of Tucson’s commitment to progress. From the University of Arizona to downtown and the west side, the streetcar linked Tucson’s past, present, and future.

Pivotal Projects: The Decisions That Defined Downtown

The episode dives deep into some of the key infrastructure and planning initiatives that were instrumental in Tucson’s revitalization. One standout topic is the redesign of the Fourth Avenue underpass, which transformed what was once a claustrophobic passageway into a welcoming gateway between Fourth Avenue and downtown. Nina recounts how early skepticism gave way to collaboration, resulting in a project that not only improved transportation but also symbolized a new era for downtown Tucson.

Glenn shares his experience with the Scott Avenue streetscape project, emphasizing the importance of creating walkable, inviting public spaces. These projects, while sometimes controversial, laid the foundation for the downtown we know today—a vibrant hub of arts, culture, and history. The guests also reflect on the power of compromise, with Nina recalling her partnership with current Mayor Regina Romero to ensure the west side was integrated into the streetcar system from the beginning.

Looking Back, Moving Forward

For Nina, C.T., and Glenn, walking through downtown today is an emotional experience. Glenn, who visits Tucson annually, remarks on how each new development feels like another puzzle piece falling into place, creating a downtown that shines in its own unique way. C.T. shares how his move to Armory Park allowed him to see firsthand the fruits of their labor, while Nina expresses pride in both downtown’s transformation and her contributions to other Tucson landmarks, like the Reid Park Zoo.

This episode isn’t just a look back—it’s an invitation to think about Tucson’s future. As Tom Heath notes, the milestones discussed here are just the beginning of the city’s story. The work of these visionaries serves as a reminder of what can be achieved through collaboration, determination, and a love for the community.

🌟 Hop Aboard and Keep the Story Going!

Next time you ride the streetcar, think of the visionaries—Nina Trasoff, C.T. Revere, and Glenn Lyons—who helped make it a reality. Their legacy is all around us, in every thriving business, cultural event, and historic landmark downtown.

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Tom Heath
Good morning. It’s a beautiful Sunday in the Old Pueblo. You’re listening to Katy. Tucson. Thank you for spending a part of your brunch hour with us on your downtown Tucson community. Sponsored, all volunteer powered rock and roll radio station. This week, we bring you the conclusion of our two part series featuring three influential figures who played a pivotal role in shaping downtown Tucson transformation from the late 2000.

Tom Heath
We have former City Council member Nina Trace off her chief of staff, Katie Revere and Glenn Lyons, the CEO of the Downtown Tucson Partnership at the time. And they’re here to share more stories, lessons and behind the scenes moments from Tucson’s revitalization journey. And we’re focusing on 2005 to 2009. Well, today is January 26th, 2025. My name is Tom Heath, and you’re listening to Life Along the Streetcar.

Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
I’m always amazed when that works to. Well, we’ve got, the second part of an interview we started last week to share with you. And, we’re going to get into that here fairly quickly. And then I want you to stay tuned for the end and get some updates on a few projects that I’ve been kind of teasing.

Tom Heath
And we’re getting to the, the finality of, some of those and I would love to get your input and, and see where we might take some of this, but I do want to finish up this interview we have with, three, key figures from, you know, the 2005 to 2009 arts. Nena trace off. She was a city council member with Ward six.

Tom Heath
So she saw downtown fourth Avenue, University. She, and then her chief of staff, Katie Revere and Glenn Lyons, who was the CEO of the Downtown Tucson Partnership at the time. Last week, we kind of got the, the backstory of how they came together, some of the, the challenges and accomplishments that they had. And today we’re going to move into the next phase, which are some of those pivotal and transformative things, such as the streetcar and connecting the West Side.

Tom Heath
The we’ll also I kind of ask them the question as to what they, what they think as they’re walking around downtown now. Glenn no longer lives here, but, he’s he comes back and visits, and, both Nina and CTA are in, the Tucson area. So they get to kind of see more regularly what’s happening.

Tom Heath
So we’re gonna finish up that interview and then again, invite you to stick around to the end and talk about some of these cool projects we’ve been working on for you.

Nina Trasoff
But then we had to look at how do we tie all of this together. And that was an essential part of it. But so was getting people here and so was the focus on it. Be a downtown. And what did that mean to that? How far east did that go? How far west did that go? Then came the streetcar concept, which was really rough.

Nina Trasoff
And it was I mean, I guess my role in all of that was looking at all of these individual aspects and figure out how do we tie this together with the ribbon and how do we get it passed through through my colleagues and get community support.

Tom Heath
And, well, in your Ward six. So just to be clear, it’s not downtown and Ward six is know.

Nina Trasoff
I have no more sex with downtown.

Tom Heath
No, but it wasn’t just downtown.

Nina Trasoff
Oh I know, yeah. The last project was just to throw out. There was the zoo. Oh, yeah. And saving the elephants at the zoo. And that was another battle that I was doing at the same time that I was working with these guys.

Tom Heath
So it’s not like you can put all of your energies into this. Just this one. Oh, no. No. Yes. You guys, when you’re.

Nina Trasoff
On council, respect the council members. They’re dealing with your issue and this and this and this and that.

Tom Heath
And it also looking at a at a way that makes sense because as year as Ward six goes in, you’re into fourth Avenue and you’re into the university. You’ve got other, you know, and so I have some of the historical issues, but you’ve got the density issues, the parking issues, the business issues.

Nina Trasoff
You also have the devil payment issues in that it was easy. It would have been easy to just focus on the greater downtown area, but we just felt that it needed to also include the university area. Right. How do you tie the university in to the downtown? And then you’ve got the barrios, what’s left of them, and then you have the west side, which is in some need, such need of revitalization.

Nina Trasoff
And, Regina Romero and I, our current mayor, she represented the West Side, Ward one, and we went behind between working closely together to battling and then finding the way to work closely together, and ended up as a great partner in I mean, the battle was the streetcar had to go from the university through downtown, but when do we build the west side of it?

Tom Heath
Right.

Nina Trasoff
And she said, now. And I said, no, we need to get that. And so we ended up with a compromise of most of the economic development would be focused downtown, because that’s where the money would come from. But the streetcar would it would be part of the initial plan so that the west side could be drawn into it.

Nina Trasoff
And you’ve seen the wonderful stuff that’s being done west of the freeway.

Tom Heath
Yeah, I’ve talked to the developers that that would not have happened if the streetcar hadn’t been extended over there.

Nina Trasoff
We got the streetcar when it came in. Raul Grijalva was on board right away. Yep. Gabby was newer and wanted to understand it better. And so I visited her. Was there a new in, DC? I brought her a video that staff and I worked on that showed along the route, planned and use statistics and demonstrations that, excuse me, for every mile of streetcar, it’s millions of dollars and development would happen.

Nina Trasoff
And, boy, you go along that streetcar and it played out in spades. I mean, it’s way more than it was anticipated. And she was on board immediately. Yeah.

Tom Heath
Is it there’s there’s no I mean, it’s no coincidence that my show is called Lifelong The Streetcar, cause that I came to Tucson in 1993. I didn’t get involved with really understanding our history and culture until 2015. And by that point, you know, the streetcar had been operational. And I could clearly see in my my comments and interviews and talking to people that that connection was really what drove a lot of the economic development.

Nina Trasoff
And had we not fought for that back in.

Tom Heath
You know, the early days and gotten the Tiger grant and been able to really pursue that right.

C.T. Revere
But boy, was it painful getting there. Right. You know, we, when when we were in office, you know, they were working on the Tiger Grant and they were working on, you know, sort of determining what kind of streetcar we wanted visiting Portland and other places where we could see examples of what was happening. But in the meantime, the first thing that had to happen was any utilities that were under that proposed streetcar line had to move.

C.T. Revere
And so because you can’t have, you know, gas lines and water lines under a train track, otherwise you’re tearing up the train track when something happens. So the first thing we did was construction that from people’s perspective didn’t have any benefit, but it sure hurt them financially.

Tom Heath
Yeah.

C.T. Revere
And it really made it tough. I mean, we we recognized and appreciated how hard it was for people, who were doing business there, but it had to be done in order to get to where we are now. And that, you know, we did as the Aids, we did constituent services, and we got beat up a lot, you know, it was, it was challenging.

Tom Heath
It’s tough to get from from where you are to to where to where you want to go sometimes. And that challenge can be, something difficult to overcome.

Nina Trasoff
I think one of the things that was powerful in those days was, yeah, we were mostly Democrats, but at the time Bob was up as the mayor and we worked together so beautifully because it wasn’t a political issue or shouldn’t be. And it wasn’t. It was how do we look at it from all points of view and work together?

Nina Trasoff
And he and I were a tag team when it came to Washington and to some of the internal and regional politics. He, he was fabulous at that particular time. And then the relationships that you built, East Side was a different issue because they weren’t really tied to downtown, and yet they were able to see the value and, and realized that there were things that were worth coming down here for as we developed them.

C.T. Revere
If one of the one of the first major visible initiatives of downtown redevelopment was the streetscape project on Scott Avenue, and that was very strategic because the folks out on the east side who didn’t find reason to go downtown didn’t believe that it was worth the investment or the tax. You know, the capturing the taxes that the Tiff district allowed.

C.T. Revere
So what the city did was they they made the the street where the theater is located into a really wonderful place where you’re not tripping over uneven sidewalks and everything else because the customer base, the people who go to the theater, come from the East side. So it introduced them to, to the benefit of, of this effort. And it was really, you know, it caused some controversy at the time, but it was really a smart move on the city’s part to do that.

Glenn Lyons
That was the first project that I really got involved in. From a design point of view. And I had taken, one of the first pedestrian malls in Canada that had failed, both pedestrian in Calgary and, we converted it back to traffic in the evenings to create an entertainment district. And we did it on a historic theme.

Glenn Lyons
And so I was asked to help out in that design process. When I Salai was leading it. And it was a really good consulting team working on it. And I didn’t understand a lot about the history beyond what I could see. I didn’t understand what water harvesting was. I did understand the need that was readily apparent, but we kind of rolled up our space and we worked together and and we realized that we had to create a destination where you could walk from one end of the from Broadway to the to the end of the four block area.

Glenn Lyons
Turn around, come back. And you understood the story of Tucson. And, and then if you were doing it because you were walking to the theater, you understood something about its future, too. And boy, did those consultants do a good job in the construction of it. And the way it’s been maintained is great. I’ve worked on, many pedestrian mall type projects like that where city governments have been so tight with the money.

Glenn Lyons
When we were finished, we asked ourselves whether it was worth doing or not. You don’t ask that question with know.

Tom Heath
It’s my favorite, my favorite section of any street in Tucson. And, of course, my favorite part is Toby the Griffin, because you can see the the footprints from where he jumped off.

Nina Trasoff
I, I that was so clever. I just, I fell in love with it.

Glenn Lyons
And that was so Tucson. Yeah.

Tom Heath
I was going lines there at the end. We’re interviewing, Glenn Lyons, who is the CEO of the Downtown Tucson Partnership, in 2009, Nina Trace off from Ward six from 2005 2009, her chief of staff, KT Revere. And we’ve been talking about some of those transformative moments during that time that really have led to what we’re seeing here in, the urban core and a lot of this revitalization that’s happened in the last 20 years.

Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
Well, if you’re just joining us, shame on you for being late, but I’ll catch you up. We have, the final installment of what has been a two part series. So, we had two segments last week, two segments this week, with former council member Nina Trace off. She was Ward six council member during the, 2005 to 2009 time frame.

Tom Heath
Glenn Lyons, who was ahead of the downtown Tucson partnership around that same time, and, Nina’s chief of staff, KT Revere. They came in. We talked about all kinds of things that happened during this really pivotal moment in, Tucson’s transformation from 20 years ago. And, we’ve been talking about, some fun things. And we’re going to finish up here with some arts culture and, kind of their impressions of where we are in Tucson now.

Nina Trasoff
Yeah. But again, all that you’re mentioning is it’s arts and entertainment and restaurants, and we have an amazing I mean, we’re a city of gastronomy. Hello. Tucson. Yes. And we’re one of the first. We were the first.

C.T. Revere
United States.

Nina Trasoff
With the right.

Tom Heath
We tied with the city in Mexico for a first in North America, but we were first the United States. Yep.

Glenn Lyons
Wow. But I remember when an astronomer would come to talk. They filled a big hall at the university. 2000 people, to listen to an astronomer. And I was like, what planet on my arm.

Nina Trasoff
Just.

Glenn Lyons
Never happened.

Nina Trasoff
To go back to the astronomy. Did. Kudos to Janos.

Tom Heath
Yes.

Nina Trasoff
Who helped get all of that going? And, you and I were talking the other day. He told me something a few years ago, and I wanted to make sure it was right before we talked that, you know, he had been up on the north side, one of the resorts, and he moved his restaurant downtown, which was humongous at that time.

Nina Trasoff
He said the reason he did that was because of the portal. We created the entry by redoing the Fourth Avenue underpass. And that that’s what opened the gates for him to come down and started all of this with amazing restaurants. We have to dozens of them. The, okay, here’s an anecdote from when I first came in office, and I was such a naive.

Nina Trasoff
I mean, I’d been a reporter, I covered things, I knew what was going on. I had no concept of what it was like to be that person and do it. And a few weeks into my term, a developer came and spoke to me about the plans for the Fourth Avenue underpass, which predates you. You might not know this.

Nina Trasoff
The original plans were to leave the old Fourth Avenue underpass, which was just claustrophobic, and then build a new one underneath that, the streetcar and traffic and that would become a pedestrian way. The result would have been the entire. If you’ve envision that area, the entire downtown area, entry to downtown would have been asphalt and concrete underpasses and roadways.

Nina Trasoff
And this guy came to me and said, you know, we need to get rid of the Fourth Avenue underpass and maintain that the six Avenue will be a historic one and never be touched. Right. And make that commitment to history. And then we need to create an entry way, a wide, broad, pedestrian friendly, streetcar friendly and entry way.

Nina Trasoff
And I remember I’d been in office maybe a month, two weeks in, I’d met with this guy and thought it was kind of intriguing. And I called our then, transportation director, Jim Clark. Bless his heart, who came into my office as a gym. Somebody presented me some ideas that I think are really good for the Fourth Avenue underpass, and he literally could not stop from rolling his eyes and said, we’ve been working on this for five years.

Nina Trasoff
We’ve gone through so many iterations and this and that. We finally have a plan. And you once this is saying to the new council member he couldn’t help himself. Then he looked at the plans, said, this is good, and became a partner in it and helped create that. But that was the entryway. And I think that’s a lot of the gateway that helped Congress become the stellar thing, the hotel Congress.

Nina Trasoff
Yeah, which is astounding what they’ve done and the we believe vision of the, the train depot and all of this stuff downtown. I think that was a key thing. And then next to that was the streetcar.

Tom Heath
Yeah. I’ve talked to many people that would agree with that, that that fourth Avenue underpass was was dynamic in so many ways, just not transportation. But it really opened up, you know, just it was inviting and it opened up a way for people to, to cross through and Fourth Avenue downtown, we’re really an a separate entities because of that.

Tom Heath
And now they were just sort of an extension of each other.

Glenn Lyons
In some ways. I kicked off the the apartment boom that way. Oh yeah. We had, but it started right where the, underpass, arrives in downtown and really changed the whole sense of downtown with it.

Tom Heath
Yeah, yeah, but if the two of you, you’re still in Tucson, you get to to experience some of our Tucson life. But, Glen, you you don’t live here right now. You get to come back occasionally. Do you have thoughts when you walk around?

Glenn Lyons
Well, every every time. You know, we’ve been coming back every year since 2010. And every time we come back, there’s another piece of the puzzle that’s been filled in, and it’s never quite the way we thought it would be, but it shines on its own. And, as you fill in more pieces of the puzzle, you start to see the picture.

Glenn Lyons
And that’s a very good picture. This is a really pleasant place to be, and it’s still a small downtown. It’s still a downtown that is, welcoming and, maintains its charm. So that’s really what we do.

Tom Heath
And I think it’s still based upon the those principles that you put forth, the art, the history, the culture that’s what’s driving a lot of this. We do have more people, businesses and people living, but it’s it’s all being driven by those three components of art, history and culture.

Glenn Lyons
Yeah. And I think part of it, too, is that we don’t have 50,000 office workers, coming to work and going into the big buildings downtown. And we have to build our economy around other things. And as much as we’d like to have, an office boom here, it’s it has given us room to to do more things downtown.

Tom Heath
Yeah. And a year with the university, is that correct?

Nina Trasoff
You know.

Tom Heath
I’m, you know, I’m.

Nina Trasoff
Trying desperately to be retired. Okay.

Tom Heath
How’s that working out?

Nina Trasoff
Not really, but it’s happening is I’m still working for Bruce. Mostly nonprofits that I love. And instead of charging them, I just am doing it. So. But I very expensive hobby. Well, but I’m at that time of life and I enjoy that. I enjoy still being able to make contributions, being part of, several boards of directors and just helping to move things along in the city.

Nina Trasoff
So it’s nice to still be involved and play a role.

Tom Heath
I just have to imagine that you just feel like you just have to have this, like, a warm glow as you walk around and just see how things have come together.

Nina Trasoff
I think my two points of pride, if I were a, if I allow myself that, are what’s happened downtown and knowing what it was, where it was going, and how as a team, we managed to shift things that I could play a role in that a leadership role in that. And the other one are the elephants at the zoo.

Nina Trasoff
When when Nandi was born, the first of the elephant breeding programs that they have going on, it was because of the excellence and the losing two football, soccer fields.

Tom Heath

Nina Trasoff
In order to create enough space for the elephants to meet national international standards. And now we have one of the preeminent breeding programs in the nation, in the world actually. Oh yeah. And Nandi was the first born of that. So I figure that’s the only granddaughter I have. I have I have two sons and five grandsons. So I have done it for like it in rather large.

Nina Trasoff
But, no, I.

Tom Heath
Love her on the.

Nina Trasoff
Way to pride. So. Yeah, it’s it’s a very nice feeling.

Tom Heath
Thank you. And KT you’re down town quite a bit.

C.T. Revere
I am, I lived downtown about ten years ago. I moved downtown, and I did it in large part because I was like, you know, I was seeing the fruits of the work that we did. We took a lot of grief while we were getting it done because, you know, as Bob walkup like to say, all the time, I would rather be at the ribbon cutting, the groundbreaking.

C.T. Revere
And I see that clearly now, you know, you. So you’re celebrating at the at the ribbon cutting at the groundbreaking. You’re basically causing the inconvenience and construction and discomfort. But I moved it. I moved to Armory Park about ten years ago, and I now I’m never moving out of there. My wife and I bought a home, downtown, a 1900 railroad house.

C.T. Revere
And, Yeah, it’s it’s it’s really rewarding to be down here and then and after, after we left office, Nina instilled in me a love for public service. And so that’s what I’ve done for the last 18 years after a, like, you know, a lifetime of newspapering. So I went to work for the Arizona Department of Transportation, and I did community relations work and public involvement, basically, you know, ensuring that the requirements of Nepa were met when we’re doing highway projects and road projects so that we don’t have the same disastrous results for for people who are, you know, the least powerful people among us, like we did back in the 50s and 60s.

C.T. Revere
So I got to be involved in a lot of things that way. And then I was a consultant for a while, and now I work in the legal Services building, so.

Tom Heath
Yeah. Well, KT thank you, Nina. Thank you Glenn. Thank you. As somebody who really began to appreciate Tucson in 2015, I know that the work that the three of you put forth and the effort and and the turmoil that you might have gone through was, was worth it for me. So that’s all that really matters. So thank you, guys.

Nina Trasoff
Thank you. Pleasure.

Tom Heath
I meant it, you know, I get a chance to experience all the wonderful things. And I know we have a long way to go in Tucson. There’s so much happening. If you just look at the west side, which we talk a lot about in the interview. But if you look at what’s happening there with about a huge project that’s going to bring a lot of, excitement, a lot more excitement to the West Side, a few things happening in the downtown area.

Tom Heath
That’ll be projects kind of breaking ground over the next few years. There’s still lots to go, but we’ve made so much progress in the last 20 years, and I really appreciate those who put their time, effort and energy into making this such a special place. We don’t always agree on every aspect of what needs to be done as a community.

Tom Heath
We have this dialog and it doesn’t always work the way we want it, but collectively, I it’s hard for me to to see anyone that couldn’t have an overall feeling of success over the last 20 years certainly could do things better and start always strive for more perfection. But, I do appreciate, the the time that people put in to making this a really wonderful community.

Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
Well don’t go bye bye. We have many more cool things for you today, Ted. Brazil ski interviews, some members of the, labor movement and writers as well, with his show words and work that’s coming up in just a couple of minutes. Ty Logan at the top of the hour with Heavy Mental. He brings us back to the music at one, and then it’s just music until next Sunday.

Tom Heath
When? When we come back on the air, to wanted to share with you a few projects that they talked about towards the end of last year, one in particular, and it kind of ties in with today’s interview. If you if you go to our website, lifelong street car.org, we have the video, this interview we did with these three individuals.

Tom Heath
And we recorded it in our new studio. So lifelong street car has gone out and we’ve partnered with a, couple of other individuals, and we’ve created something called Show Source Studios, where we want to help people create their own podcast, to do their own storytelling. And, you can start to get a sense, through life on the street car as to how this is laid out.

Tom Heath
We’ve been doing a lot of work on sound and lighting and layout. I think we have a pretty good, pretty well dialed in. And, you’ll start to see more and more coming from that studio show. Our studios, it’s in downtown. And, you know, certainly inviting people to come in, at least try it out. There’s no there’s no cost.

Tom Heath
We we we want to set up a free, example for you, too, just to kind of get a feel for it. And if there’s a future for you in storytelling or podcasting, whether you’re a small business owner, whether you want to tell your family story, whether you want to go on and just create a, a popular podcast, we want to help you with that.

Tom Heath
But they can keep an eye on life on street car.org to get a sense of the different styles that we offer and kind of the quality of the work that’s that’s coming out of it. If you want more information on that, you can, you can go to show Source studios.com. But right now, because everything is kind of the, the website is still being developed, I recommend you just contact us, through Lifelong Street Car on Facebook or Instagram or, through our website as well.

Tom Heath
Well, each week, James Portis is our production specialist. He makes things happen. Amanda. Mulattos is the production assistant. My name is Tom Heath. I’m the host and producer. We are very grateful to Ryan Hood for letting us use Dillinger Days for all of our show openings. And, today we’re going to leave you something fun from D, us to.

Tom Heath
I don’t know how to say the name. I’m sorry. And the Linford twins. It’s a single from 2024. It seemed appropriate for today’s topic. The song is we’re all in this together. I hope you have a great week and tune in next Sunday for more life along the street. Car.