Behind the Curtain: How Robert Alpaugh Revitalized Arizona Theater Company

The heart of Tucson’s cultural scene beats strongly within the walls of the Temple of Music and Art. In our latest episode of Life Along the Streetcar, Tom Heath dives into this historical gem with Robert Alpaugh, a former Broadway performer turned arts advocate. Together, they explore the legacy of this iconic venue and the tireless efforts that saved it from fading into history.

A Historical Sanctuary: The Temple of Music and Art

Opened in 1927, the Temple of Music and Art was more than just a performance hall—it was a beacon of creativity, envisioned as a sacred space where the arts could flourish in Tucson. The building, designed with Spanish Colonial and Southwest influences, was the brainchild of the Saturday Morning Musical Club. This group of visionary women brought the spirit of music to life in Tucson, creating a temple for the arts.

As Robert Alpaugh shared during the interview, “We are offering you this temple with its spirit of music to be yours for all time to enjoy, to care for and to cause to grow.” These words, spoken at the Temple’s opening, still resonate today, underscoring the idea of theaters as spiritual sanctuaries where stories come alive and communities gather.

Saving a Sacred Space: Preservation and Revitalization

The Temple of Music and Art has faced its share of challenges over the decades. By the 1980s, the building had fallen into disrepair and was at risk of being repurposed into a mundane office space. But the Tucson community rallied to save this cultural treasure. As Robert recounts, “John Hudak, now publisher of Tucson Lifestyle, led a group who literally chained themselves to the building to prevent its destruction.”

This act of preservation wasn’t just about saving a building; it was about protecting a temple of artistic expression. Thanks to the efforts of passionate individuals and the support of the city, the Temple was revitalized and restored to its former glory, ensuring it remained a central pillar of Tucson’s cultural landscape.

A New Beginning: The Arizona Theater Company’s Transition

In the late 1980s, the Arizona Theater Company (ATC) was on the brink of closure. That’s when Robert Alpaugh stepped in, moving from New York to Tucson to lead the ATC during its transition into the newly revitalized Temple of Music and Art. “The temple was on the horizon… I had to make a decision very quickly… But I never looked back. I was thrilled,” Robert shared.

Under his guidance, the ATC found a new home in the Temple, breathing life into both the theater company and the historic venue. The opening of the Temple with Peter Shaffer’s Amadeus was a monumental moment, utilizing every inch of the space to create a spectacular production. This transition marked a new era for Tucson’s performing arts, solidifying the Temple’s role as a sacred stage for storytelling and artistic exploration.

Get Involved: Share Your Story or Connect with Robert Alpaugh

Are you inspired by the legacy of the Temple of Music and Art? Connect with Robert Alpaugh to learn more about his journey or to get involved in Tucson’s vibrant arts scene

Do you know a prominent Tucsonan who has made an impact on our community? Send Tom Heath a message to nominate them for a future episode of Life Along the Streetcar. Let’s continue to celebrate the people and places that make Tucson a city rich in culture and history.

Get Involved: Connect with Tucson’s Cultural Legacy

If Robert’s story resonates with you, don’t hesitate to reach out. You can connect directly with Robert Alpaugh on LinkedIn to learn more about his work and perhaps even discuss how you can collaborate on future projects. Robert’s experience and insights are invaluable, and he’s always open to connecting with like-minded individuals who share his love for the arts.

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Tom Heath
Good morning. It’s a beautiful Sunday in the Old Pueblo. And you’re listening to Katy. Tucson. Thank you for spending part of your brunch hour with us on your downtown Tucson community. Sponsored, all volunteer powered rock and roll radio station. And this week’s show, we’re going to wrap up our conversation with, Robert Al, how he led the organization called the Arizona Theater Company during its transition to the Temple of Music and Art back in the late 80s and early 90s.

Tom Heath
Last week we got a good history of the temple. This week we’re going to focus more on the Arizona Theater Company. Today is August 18th, 2024. My name is Tom Heath and you’re listening to Life Along the Streetcar. Each and every Sunday, our focus on social, cultural and economic impacts in Tucson’s urban core. And we shed light on hidden gems.

Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
We put it out on all kinds of platforms for podcasting like Spotify, iTunes, iHeart radio, and others. So it should be out there for you to enjoy and and share the love of downtown. And I don’t know if you’ve been in the urban core in a while, but if you haven’t and you stop downtown, there’s some new shops, there’s some new restaurants.

Tom Heath
And the Downtown Tucson Partnership, along with some of the building owners, have put up these fabulous, window murals, their vinyl, murals and some of these buildings that are going through, renovations or construction or are in between, owner or OC, operators at the moment. But that’s the really start to, to jazz up the place.

Tom Heath
It’s looking really nice and, huge shout out to the, the Downtown Tucson partnership’s, efforts on that. And just another reason to come down and check things out. Probably have to do an update here of the new restaurants and things to do in downtown, because there’s been a few changes, you know, and we’re, we’re talking in the midst of an interview with Robert Al Powell, who is, you know, he was amidst a lot of changes, you know, he came from the East Coast, he came to Tucson and he took over the, the the head reins there of the, there’s one the theater company as it was transitioning

Tom Heath
into its home at the Temple of Music and Art on Scott, where it still exists today. Last week we started the interview, and it just it was just too much information. We couldn’t, you know, it’s like there’s two stories there. There’s the temple and the theater company. So we’re really focused on the temple and its history and its transition into the house of the Arizona Theater Company.

Tom Heath
And now with this, this week’s interview, we get more into the theater company and the history as well. But, Robert, Al Paul, we appreciate, him taking the time to sit down with us at the Tucson Gallery Studios. A couple of weeks ago and record this interview. And this is the second half of that interview.

Robert Alpaugh
And when we went into the temple, our production manager, was able to really make that stage what it needed to be for the work that Arizona Theater Company wanted to do in there. So when we opened the temple, we opened with Peter Shaffer’s, Amadeus. And it was a magnificent performance. The designers used every inch of the space besides stages, which are now closed, but the side stages were used.

Robert Alpaugh
I mean, it, the production elements that we were able to create in there, were just spectacular and really was a huge lift for the theater.

Tom Heath
And how are you on time? Because this is we’re going way beyond, which is fine.

Robert Alpaugh
Whatever you want.

Tom Heath
Okay. So then let’s talk about the other element of this. This combination. That’s the theater company. So we have the temple that’s built and that’s had its uses. And then you have the theater company, like what’s the origins of, of the, of the ATC?

Robert Alpaugh
Well, ATC started as, Arizona Community Theater, I think, Sandy Chamberlain, I think, and then it morphed into Arizona Theater Company. It was an amateur theater when it first started.

Tom Heath
Was it a Tucson based or only Tucson?

Robert Alpaugh
You know, it is Tucson based ATC. Ballet Arizona used to be Tucson based. I mean, this is where the art starts. The ballet. Arizona Opera started here. I think Arizona Opera always did Phoenix, but, and we always did Phoenix. But we started here and, we didn’t always do Phoenix. The theater started doing Phoenix, you know, 10 or 15 years into its run.

Robert Alpaugh
And we performed at the Scottsdale Center for the Performing Arts. But the theater really, after Sandy, they hired Gary Guess on them. And he was here a long time, maybe 20 plus years. And he really, improved and built the quality element of the theater. Not only just play selection, but the production values and the actors that he hired.

Robert Alpaugh
Really, put the theater on a forward trajectory. As a professional theater. And it’s one of the. Well, it’s the only professional theater now that performs in two cities. We perform. They perform in Tucson, and in Phoenix now, I think in Mesa. But the Herberger Theater Center was built for Arizona Theater Company, and we moved into that, I think, in 92.

Robert Alpaugh
We opened the temple in 1990 and opened the Herberger Theater in 92. So it was quite a period of growth that.

Tom Heath
Theaters in downtown.

Robert Alpaugh
Phoenix, downtown Phoenix, it’s right across from the music Hall and up the street from the new, arena.

Tom Heath
Okay. Yeah. And I it’s, been by there. That’s why I was unsure of it. We were. We got it from Phoenix. Or if we brought it to Phoenix, the the the plays that I’ve seen there have been they haven’t been musicals. They’ve really been more, theatrical. And so that is that.

Robert Alpaugh
Yeah. You know, a regional theater which is what ATC is trying to do, a balance. Because you have to, you know, please, a lot of people to be successful. And, used to be said that subscribers were the lifeblood blood of the American theater. And so you had to please those subscribers, and they were coming back 6 or 7 times.

Robert Alpaugh
Okay. So you had to give them a good variety. Not so much anymore. Not so much anymore subscribers, the younger folks and even the older folks, especially after Covid, are really deciding to select what they want to see and not pick a whole season. So it’s it’s, changed a lot. Okay. But you still need to provide a variety of work for your community.

Robert Alpaugh
So a musical, a comedy, the recent Broadway show drama mixed it up.

Tom Heath
And what about. What about the talent? Is it a is it like a, like, a, a group that rotates through or do you do open auditions for every or do they do open auditions for every performance?

Robert Alpaugh
Yeah. It’s hard for me to not say they because although I was here a long, long time ago, I still feel very real. I love that theater. Yeah. When? When I was here, we auditioned in, Phoenix, New York in LA. And I think the in Seattle. And I think that’s pretty much still the same. Gary worked a lot, I guess, and worked a lot in Seattle.

Robert Alpaugh
So he had those relationships and also in the Twin Cities. I don’t know what they’re doing today.

Tom Heath
So. So some of those talent, then they’re, they’re, they’re being found in other they’re not they’re not Tucson born and bred or some are.

Robert Alpaugh
Okay. They’re they’re we try to they we always want to have some balance of using local arts because there are talented people here. But, it’s an equity company and that has certain restrictions on what.

Tom Heath
Is, I’m not sure.

Robert Alpaugh
An equity Actors Equity Association, which is part of the AfL-CIO, a labor, unions.

Tom Heath
So you got you got some restrictions on who you can hire. And you know what? You can pay.

Robert Alpaugh
And yes, very much so. And that’s negotiated every 2 or 3 years. And it used there used to be a concept. ATC is a large theater and that used to be League of Resident theaters. Now it’s regional theaters. There used to be a lot of resident companies around the country, where people would live in a community and, and come and live there and work there all year.

Robert Alpaugh
That doesn’t happen as much anymore because of the economy of that. The economics of that. So now most theaters do pick up auditions wherever they choose to audition from and bring the talent in while using, local talent as well.

Tom Heath
All right. And then is that the same for, like, the back of the house and the production in the back of.

Robert Alpaugh
The house is usually all local. Okay. Designers could come from around the country. There’s a great lighting designer, Phillip Rosenberg, who is actually the grandson of, of, George Rosenberg, who, really saved the theater. George Rosenberg saved that theater. He went in for a year and acted as CEO, non-paid to keep that theater open.

Robert Alpaugh
And, his son, just coincidentally, went to U of A in lighting design and designs for Broadway, and I think he won a Tony Award, for, something I can’t remember. The Gentleman’s Guide to Love and Murder. He won the Tony Award for doing the lighting for that. So, you know, they use up sometimes, but designers come from all over wherever they find the talent that fits the project.

Tom Heath
And then if there’s a performance, I notice it’s it’s, you know, a week or so in Tucson and then the same show up in Phoenix is that is it then the same cast. And so they’ll just carry it through. And so when they make a commitment to come out from LA or someplace, they might be.

Robert Alpaugh
Here for Phoenix or from Tucson, they.

Tom Heath
Might be here for a month.

Robert Alpaugh
To. Well, they’re usually here probably for not, three, six, nine weeks, maybe a rehearsal, three weeks here, three weeks there, but I don’t this is not my thing anymore.

Tom Heath
Yeah, yeah, I gotcha. So you.

Robert Alpaugh
I’m historic. Yeah.

Tom Heath
So you you take over in 89, you moved from New York to Tucson. You’re like, okay, I can do this. And there’s got to be some culture shock and that, but.

Robert Alpaugh
But you’re.

Tom Heath
You’re then rebuilding the theater, working with the company. When did you open for business as the the ATC at the temple.

Robert Alpaugh
October 1990. And that was with Amadeus. Okay. And that was also the first year ATC ever did a gala.

Tom Heath
Oh, teaser. We’re going to come back after the break and talk about that gala. But I do want to remind you, we’re having this interview with, Robert Al Paul. He, is the well, he’s since since retired, but he was at the time in the 80s and 90s, he was the director of the Arizona Theater Company as it transitioned into its new home of the, the Scott, the temple of music and and art on on Scott.

Tom Heath
And, he’s showing us, with some of some of those details of how it all came to be. And we’ll be back to finish up that interview, the fourth segment of our two part series in just a moment. But, you are listening to lifelong the Streetcar, Downtown radio 99.1 FM and streaming on downtown radio.org.

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Tom Heath
All right. If you’re just joining us, we’re in the midst of a, two week, interviews, two segments. We started last week with, Robert Al Paul talking about the history of the tempo of music and art and the transition to becoming the home of the Arizona Theater Company. And this week, we’re really focusing more on the theater company.

Tom Heath
And we’re going to finish up that interview, that we recorded not too long ago at the Tucson Gallery Studios.

Robert Alpaugh
We had, tables and chairs in the courtyard and made a dance floor in the street and closed down Scott Avenue. And, that was the first, that they ever did.

Tom Heath
Well, they’re doing that. They do it every year now.

Robert Alpaugh
Do it now. And there are a lot of funds. So. Yeah. October. 1990 with Amadeus, with an amazing cast.

Tom Heath
And how long was your run then? At the at the theater.

Robert Alpaugh
In the temple. Five years.

Tom Heath
Okay.

Robert Alpaugh
And then a year at, the Leo rich.

Tom Heath
All right. So you you know, this is not to be in any way a suggestion, but why are you still in Tucson, then? Like what? What caused you to stay here?

Robert Alpaugh
Well, we fell in love with the desert. First of all, very spiritual. We love the monsoon season. We don’t even mind the heat. So when I left ATC, which was for some political reasons that I’m not going to go into, we thought we’d go to Chicago for a couple of years and then go to LA or go back to New York.

Robert Alpaugh
We didn’t know we stayed in Chicago 19 years, always knowing that we would move back here.

Tom Heath
Oh, so you did leave Tucson after it. Okay. So yeah.

Robert Alpaugh
When I left the theater. Okay, so we did leave Tucson, and I have no job when we left Tucson to go to Chicago.

Tom Heath
Welcome to the arts world.

Robert Alpaugh
Oh my God. I was a candidate for managing director at Steppenwolf Theater, which is one of the country’s premier regional theaters. And I didn’t get it, but we were sort of counting on me getting it. And we sold our house here. And it all worked out, but it was pretty scary, when both of us ended up there and my partner Rob had a six month contract with a design firm, and I had nothing.

Tom Heath
Well, except I sometimes that I guess I would imagine that energy and that that, angst on some people destroys them and others, it rises them up to find other challenges. Yeah.

Robert Alpaugh
I think the energy and excitement is going to make Kamala Harris.

Tom Heath
There you go. Yeah. The ad there’s politics am I going to talk about but there are politics I am going to talk about. But the and your, your partner Rob, we’ve we’ve talked that’s actually how we met. Rob Waters is an artist at the Tucson Gallery. I was doing a meet the artist podcast, which you can check out on, on, on the, the Tucson gallery’s website.

Tom Heath
And he mentioned your history here. And I was like, I’ve got to I got to talk to Robert. I got to find all this stuff out. And then.

Robert Alpaugh
You you moved from.

Tom Heath
Chicago back to Tucson in a kind of a retirement capacity? No, no.

Robert Alpaugh
No, I had been working at one of the largest, consulting firms. In the nonprofit space, Campbell and Company, and I negotiated with them, and I took two of my clients with me, started my own company, All Paul and Associates, which I had for 12 years. Gave it up after during Covid because I couldn’t travel anymore.

Robert Alpaugh
I used to fly three times a week there, and I didn’t want to fly that much, but I was making money. We all need that. So, when Covid hit and I couldn’t travel after that, I closed my business and now I’m still working. But only for things I want to do and for people I know and like.

Tom Heath
So do you think is Tucson again? Not no commitments, but is Tucson now home for you or. Oh yes. Okay.

Robert Alpaugh
Yeah. As I say on Chip and Joanna, this is my forever home.

Tom Heath
All right. I’ve got to look up Chip and Joanne now, see, I always get homework with these episodes. I, I come in here with all these questions that I get to leave with more questions. And are you do you get back to see shows at the theater?

Robert Alpaugh
Not so much. We pick and choose. We go to rogue, Invisible Theater. Susan Clausen’s, project for 50 years. I know a.

Tom Heath
Good heavens, that’s amazing that she’s doing for 50.

Robert Alpaugh
Years. Yeah, she’s she’s a powerhouse.

Tom Heath
Arrow theater, one of my favorites because of the intimacy of it. Yes. And we did a show with with the group over there. And, that’s on our lifelong streetcar podcast. So you can check that out.

Robert Alpaugh
For the.

Tom Heath
Writer. Love, love, love what they do and did not realize until talking with him that they do adaptations like original adaptations. It’s not just here’s a script and let’s go put it on. It’s here’s a book. No one’s ever turned into a play. Let’s figure out how to make it a play with no props and.

Robert Alpaugh
They’re very creative. And we’ve seen things on Broadway that we didn’t quite get or like, and then we’d see it at the rogue, and it was better, because of the intimacy, and that connection between, you know, and there’s really not much of a fourth wall there, which makes it really wonderful. Or it’s.

Tom Heath
Extremely awkward if they’re in a fight or something. Yeah, I feel like. I feel like I’m not supposed to be here. I have to leave this work.

Robert Alpaugh
Right? Are you,

Tom Heath
With all of your artistic experience and background and connections, are you doing anything? Sort of, in the, in the, the social media world or the blogging world? Are you talking about these things?

Robert Alpaugh
No, no, no.

Tom Heath
She never had a podcast for free at this one. I mean, that’s, 2 to 2 weeks of episodes here.

Robert Alpaugh
And then, you know, I, I started writing a book. At one point, my computer crashed and I lost it, so I didn’t start it again. I sometimes talk, you know, at colleges or universities about careers in the arts, which I love doing. And, so I, you know, I, I’m around, I do things, but no, no, no.

Robert Alpaugh
So there’s no.

Tom Heath
I heard there’s a, there’s a maybe in there.

Robert Alpaugh
No, I mean, the place I could do it would be I and as I mentioned earlier, I off microphone I’d have to be my own producer. And I know the how to do that. Yeah.

Tom Heath
Well we see if we can’t find someone to help you out with that. I think the your experience and knowledge would be wonderful to share your take on on what’s happening. Is it to me the art scene in Tucson is so much more elevated than it was when I moved here in the 90s, and very impressed with the talent.

Tom Heath
And and I don’t if that’s just me getting more mature or being more appreciative of it, or if it’s just truly gotten so much better, it seems like there’s just really good talent from a music standpoint, an acting standpoint, a dance standpoint, a comedic standpoint. We really seem to have a lot of talent here in Tucson.

Robert Alpaugh
Yeah, I mean, I think the symphony is one of the best in the country. Jose Luis Gomez and Paul Meachem, have done such a great job there, that the music is just amazing. And Jose Luis, is making a commitment to music of the Americas. So the programing is getting broader. The ballet under Margaret Mullen, who’s the new artistic director.

Robert Alpaugh
This will be her third season, is going gangbusters and doing really well. You know, the theater, is doing great as far as I know. TMA is rocking. I mean, there’s just so much going on here. The opera doing. Well.

Tom Heath
Yeah, I think Sony is a podcast, to hone all these things in, but.

Robert Alpaugh
Yeah, we’ll see.

Tom Heath
We’ll see.

Robert Alpaugh
Well, I think that would be your job.

Tom Heath
I got this one. Well, well, we’ll find you a producer. Is Robert all, you can check him out on on LinkedIn is a good place to find some information about you on social media, through Facebook, I think. But if people want to connect with you, you’re okay with, just kind of reaching out and saying, oh, sure.

Robert Alpaugh
But I’m taking down LinkedIn as soon as I can figure out how to do it.

Tom Heath
Okay? So don’t go to LinkedIn so.

Robert Alpaugh
You can for the next probably two months, okay? Because it’ll take me that long to figure out how to take it down.

Tom Heath
Well, I like LinkedIn because, you know, like you had a line in there and said, hey, let’s just let’s just meet up and see if we can’t make crazy ideas come to life. Yeah. So it seemed like that was a good way to engage with you, but.

Robert Alpaugh
I’m very glad you did.

Tom Heath
So well. I appreciate your time. Appreciate all you’ve done for Tucson. And, look forward to, to your podcast when it comes out.

Robert Alpaugh
Thank you very much. I can’t wait to hear it.

Tom Heath
That’s, Robert all part. I think he was referring to this podcast that I was thinking he needs to do his own, artistically motivated or farm oriented podcast. Oh, my name is Tom Heath, and currently you’re listening to our podcast, which is Life Along the Street Car. We’re at Downtown Radio 99.1 FM, and it’s available for streaming on Downtown radio.org.

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Tom Heath
All right, let’s see here we wrap it up. Episode 304 just hit 300 and just keep on cruising. And, I want to thank you for tuning in for this two part series that we had with Robert Allport and talking about the Temple of Music and Art. And there’s an a theater company. And as a reminder, if there are topics out there that you would, like us to, to share, hit us up on Facebook, Instagram, life long streetcar.

Tom Heath
Great ways to do that. You also have a contact button on our website which is lifeline streetcar.org. Contact lifeline streetcar.org. However, you can get the information to us. We would love to explore. And I had hoped to do this during the summer because it fit in with the theme, a little bit of of a summer road trip.

Tom Heath
But there were some family issues that took me away, for unexpectedly and wasn’t able to really plan out this, this adventure. But I do expect, as I move into the fall, to be adding in a couple of road trips to life on the streetcar and touching on topics that are relevant to the urban core, connected in some way, but not necessarily within that geographical footprint that we’ve established.

Tom Heath
We did the show, and started, you know, in 2017, just it’s it’s limiting in a way that’s helpful for us to create a very focused show, but occasionally there stories that I just want to cover that aren’t maybe too far outside of the urban core or, are just really good for Tucson and, and kind of realize that that, that limit that we set, of being roughly one mile within the streetcar route.

Tom Heath
If we’re going to cover a story that makes it a little bit, challenging. So, when I hit 300 episodes, I’m like, you know what? Screw it. I’m. I’m doing it. I’m I’m in charge. I can make decisions. And we decided to do these road trips again. I thought I was gonna do a summer road trip, but we’ll do something in the fall.

Tom Heath
So if there’s ideas that you have of of stories that aren’t quite in the urban core but seem related to what we cover here on the show, we would like to know those as well. Well, don’t go anywhere now, because Ted Brazell ski and his, words and work comes up here just a couple of minutes. He interviews writers and others from the labor movement, and then we have Ty Logan with Heavy Mental at Noon.

Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
It’s amazing the talent that we have on downtown radio, the passion and the breadth and depth of music and knowledge. It’s just so fun. I’m always learning things that our deejay bank, who comes on before me on Sundays with the Art of easing, he does a different state of mind that he gets on Tuesdays, and he’s been going through state by state, the, the music from from, from those areas.

Tom Heath
That’s been fun. Of course. You know, I’m a huge fan of, radio Club crawl that talks about all the upcoming live music that you’re going to hear, with music from those bands and then the venues that they’re going to be performing in, Arizona for one one, with just all Arizona music, really professionally done show live.

Tom Heath
They’ve got a guest on one, and they bring in an artist in every week to talk about their album. Just really, really good stuff. And I gotta tell you, I’m, I’m a lyrics guy. I really, I, I’ve enjoyed, I like the, the, the thought that goes into making of lyrics of songs and I’ve never really been into that surfer sort of, type of genre because there’s not lyrics.

Tom Heath
It’s all music. But I’m telling you, you know, we’ve got a surf show and it’s addictive, I get it, I understand, and I’m learning all of these things because I’ve been listening to Downtown Radio. So I encourage you to head over to the, downtown radio.org and look for something maybe that’s familiar to you, but don’t be afraid to try something that is completely unfamiliar, and maybe you won’t like it.

Tom Heath
That’s okay. And it’s absolutely fine. I think if we don’t have programing that someone doesn’t like, we’re probably not doing it. We’re not doing it justice. In our community, if we don’t put something out that some people don’t like, because that’s the only way you’re going find, a true breadth of music. Anyway, enough of my rambling life on the street, streetcar, dawg.

Tom Heath
If you want to hit us up for show topics, we’re always interested in that. Also, have some exciting news, to share with you coming up later in the fall about potentially having a, another podcast coming out. I’m gonna see if I get on downtown radio. I don’t know, might be a co-hosted one. Who?

Tom Heath
So stay tuned for all that information. Well, we have to thank James Portis, our production specialist, and we call him that because there’s just no title large enough to encompass what he actually does for the show here, but he really makes it happen for us. My name is Tom Heath. I am your host and your producer. And as always, we open our show with music courtesy of Ryan Hood.

Tom Heath
It’s a song they have called Dillinger Days very appropriate for us, and they’ve allowed us to use it since the beginning of our show back there in October of 2017. And we’re going to leave you with music by none other than Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. It’s an honor of, Amadeus being the first ATC performance at this, the tempo of music and art down there on Scott and, the version we’re listening today at Symphony number 25, in G minor and it was part of the performance for the movie Amadeus.

Tom Heath
Well, I hope you have a great week and tune in next Sunday for more life along the streetcar.