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Episode Highlights

In this special retrospective episode, we honor the individuals whose vision, creativity, and perseverance have shaped Tucson’s downtown into the vibrant hub it is today. Here are the key highlights:

1. Artistic Revitalization with Carrie Stratford

  • Discover how Carrie and her husband revitalized Congress Street through innovative art projects, pop-up galleries, and community-driven events.
  • Learn about their dedication to keeping downtown Tucson alive during challenging times, proving that creativity can drive transformation.

2. Preserving History with Jude Cook

  • Explore Jude’s passion for restoring vintage signs as a “signage archaeologist” at the Ignite Sign Museum.
  • Hear how each sign tells a story of commerce, culture, and craftsmanship, preserving Tucson’s unique character for future generations.

3. The Hotel Congress Legacy of David Slutes

  • Celebrate David’s 27 years at Hotel Congress, where he shaped its cultural identity and created a lasting legacy in the heart of downtown.
  • Reflect on his profound impact on the Tucson community as he embarks on a new chapter.

4. Remembering Tom “Tiger” Ziegler

  • Honor the life and legacy of Tiger, whose 60+ years at Tiger’s Tap Room left an indelible mark on Tucson’s social and cultural fabric.
  • Learn how Tiger’s dedication connected generations of Tucsonans.

5. The Legacy of Donovan Durbin

  • Reflect on Donovan’s contributions to urban planning, Second Saturday events, and the beautification of Tucson.
  • Celebrate the Sixth Avenue underpass project, now named in his honor, as a lasting testament to his vision.

This episode is a heartfelt tribute to the individuals who shaped Tucson’s urban core with creativity, dedication, and community spirit.

💬 Tune in now to be inspired by their stories! Let us know which legacy resonates most with you in the comments or share your thoughts on how we can continue to celebrate Tucson’s history and growth.

Episode Description

As we usher in 2025, Life Along the Streetcar reflects on the remarkable individuals whose vision, dedication, and creativity shaped the Tucson we know and love today. In this special retrospective episode, we celebrate the legacies of those who saw potential in downtown Tucson and worked tirelessly to transform it into a vibrant hub of culture and community.

We begin with Carrie Stratford, a driving force behind downtown’s artistic revival. Carrie and her husband chose to remain in Tucson after college, dedicating themselves to revitalizing the urban core. Through innovative artist-led initiatives, pop-up galleries, and performance art events, they helped breathe new life into Congress Street at a time when it was anything but bustling.

Next, we spotlight Jude Cook, whose passion for preserving Tucson’s history is unparalleled. As the owner of Cook and Company Sign Makers and the Ignite Sign Museum, Jude approaches signage restoration with the meticulous care of an archaeologist, revealing stories of commerce, culture, and craftsmanship hidden in vintage neon.

We also honor David Slutes, whose 27-year career at Hotel Congress left an indelible mark on Tucson’s cultural landscape. David’s contributions to this iconic venue shaped its identity as a cornerstone of downtown life. His story intersects with that of Tom “Tiger” Ziegler, a legendary figure whose 60+ years at Tiger’s Tap Room epitomized dedication to community and tradition.

Finally, we reflect on the legacy of Donovan Durbin, a passionate urban planner who dedicated his life to improving Tucson. From beautification projects to fostering Second Saturday events, Donovan’s impact is now commemorated with the Sixth Avenue underpass project named in his honor.

These stories remind us of the power of commitment and vision in shaping a city’s identity.

💬 Have someone in mind who has impacted Tucson’s urban core? Or want to learn more about this episode? Contact Tom Heath at Life Along the Streetcar to share your thoughts or nominate someone to be featured on the show! Visit lifealongthestreetcar.org for more details. Let’s continue celebrating the people and stories that make Tucson extraordinary!

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Good morning. It’s a beautiful Sunday in the Old Pueblo. And you’re listening to Katie de Tucson. Thank you for spending a part of your brunch hour with us on your downtown Tucson community. Sponsored, all volunteer powered our rock n roll radio station. On this week’s show, we’re going to take one last look at 2024 and recognize some of the people who have helped to shape Tucson and share their stories with us over the last 12 months.

Today is January 5th of 2025. My name is Tom Heath and you’re listening to Life Along the Streetcar. Each and every Sunday, our focus on social, cultural and economic impacts in Tucson’s urban core. And we shed light on hidden gems. Everyone should know about. From a mountain to the University of Arizona and all stops in between, you get the inside track right here on 99.1 FM streaming on downtown radio.org.

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And of course, we invite you to listen to the the podcast version of this. If you missed the the airing on Sunday, you can listen to on places like Spotify, iTunes, or just simply by asking your smart speaker to play Life Along the Street Car podcast. Well, it’s 2025, and over the course of 2024, we had a lot of fabulous interviews.

Did a few synopsis of social, cultural and economic development stories. At the end of the year, and I thought I just felt like I was missing something and I realized what I wanted to do was just share some of the people, just their stories, something maybe, about them as individuals or their motivations, but people that, have really made a difference in our community over a period of time, not just, just doing something great, but doing something for, for years that have just really slowly and gradually helped to improve an environment that wasn’t the greatest maybe when they first started.

And, of that we’re going to start with a Carrie Stratford. She is she has a business called the caliber Group, and they do a lot of marketing for local businesses. But this part of the interview here, she, she and her husband met downtown, or they met at the U of A, and when they graduated, they just stayed in town and started working on projects to make downtown a little bit of a better place.

You’re, a young, a youngster downtown hanging out at Montgomery Ward’s and Hockneys. Then you go to the U of A?

Yep.

You meet your future husband, you do some cool stuff there, and you graduate at a time when a lot of the bright people from the U of A have graduated left town. It’s true. And you and herb, you stayed? Yeah. Why?

You know, when I graduated, herb still had a year left in school. And then, when when he graduated, we had I had a business that started and and we had already, ingrained ourselves in downtown nicely, were ingrained in, collective, galleries in town, along this, this very street that we’re sitting in front of here, we’re.

Recording here on the two side gallery studios or on Congress. And that’s right across from Hotel Congress.

Yep. And so, we just, you know, it was, a place we wanted to be, a place we had a lot of contacts, and it was a really creative time. We were, reviving artists live workspaces down here. And, and so it was it was it was fun. We were doing, performance art nights in some of the hotel or some of the, restaurants and doing all kinds of really creative and cool things.

There’s a great creative community here at that time.

There wasn’t I mean, this was not there wasn’t a lot going on in downtown outside of that. I mean, you you were driving a lot of that traffic. I mean, you get hotel Congress, but you didn’t have the the number of of destination restaurants that we have now. The, the Fox Theater was it was it was.

Boarded up at the time. Yeah. No, I mean, there was people tend to think that it was all boarded up. But, you know, right across the street was one of our favorite places, which was the Arts District Bookstore. Jay Corriveau, it was a clothing shop that a friend of ours had that was right there in the Congress.

So there was a lot of really cool things happening there. Right? Lots of really cool shops.

You remember the name of the clothing store?

Yeah. Jake Kariba.

Jake River, was it was it new closing or was it like a thrift store?

No, it was new. Okay. Very cool. Hip tip clothes at the time. So. Yeah. And Berta. Right. A lot of art, and things. So this street had a lot of things happening on it. People like to say that it was boarded up, but it actually wasn’t. You know, one of the things that that we’re very fortunate in Tucson is that we had a lot of very creative people who had restaurants and, and shops, along Congress.

And it, it had, they paid rent. And so these tenants, got the rent, they didn’t sell the building, turn it down to build something else. I remember when, some some folks from Tempe came down at one point and they’re like, oh, we wish we would have still have a street like this in Tempe, but we tore all of ours down.

Yeah, I’ve heard that from a couple of people, like, yeah, with Two suns, growth and development.

But the people that kept those kept this open are all the the artists and all the, you know, the great restaurant tours cafe. Agree. It was one of our favorite restaurants. There was there was amazing restaurants down here.

So who was coming down here at the time? It was it it was it the artist community or was it driving trucks?

You know, her, her works for, what was called the Our sister partnership and their charge, was to, create, restoration or recreate revitalization through, using art as an agent of change. Okay. And so they were really at the forefront of doing that. And they started something called downtown Saturday nights. 10,000 people come down here on Saturday.

So, when they revitalized it and called it Downtown Saturdays, I mean, that was something that was happening back in the 90s. So, we were doing brown bag lunches in the library, Plaza. There was, we were doing Phantom Gallery. So whenever a shop was would close, we’d turn it into a gallery. So I was on the public art committee for the to some people Arts Council, and we would always enliven any space that was closed.

That is a Carrie Stradford or just a piece of the interview that we did with her for more of it, of course, you can head over to our Facebook page, go back in there and just type in Carrie Stratford. You’ll get, all of the information on that particular episode. But again, just someone, a foundational person that that came at a time of need in Tucson.

And maybe not have fully understood what impact they were going to have or just kind of work their way each day and made a place, that’s a little bit better. The next person, I think, is in the exact same boat. His name is Jude Cook. He owns, Cook and Company signs. He’s also the owner, with his wife of the night Sign Museum.

We talked about him on a few different occasions and the impact that he’s had in the community. And here. Just wanted to talk through, something as basic as the the importance of signs and the the work and the the appreciation that he takes towards, recreating and and preserving this signage very much, like an archeologist approach when they find an amazing, amazing site.

The same way dude approaches what he finds an amazing sign. And, you know, we’ve, done a lot of tours for people in the area. And we will go down, maybe document and show them that road signs behind Pima Community College and, and and it may have been a quote that I heard from you or read, but I attribute it to you, the importance of signs, because it’s not just a sign, it’s it’s a it’s a sense of commerce.

It’s a sense of history. It’s a sense of technology. It’s a sense of culture.

It’s a landmark. You know, the hotel Congress on.

There signs that were created in the 30s that we could not create today.

For social reasons. No, no, no and no. There’s a lot of that.

And, you know, there’s there’s signs that like you’re saying technologically, have it changed, but it’d be curious to see, you know, as you get into some of this wiring, looking at, you know, the way it may have been designed, like kind of that’s an interesting way to put it together.

There’s definitely been some interesting stuff. You open up stuff and you kind of sometimes wonder what they were thinking. But for the most part, you know, the trade has been really good about being at least following what would be considered typical practices. I find different practices, things are built differently, from one period of time to another. You know, a couple of the signs we’ve taken have a fabrication technique that must have been a window of maybe ten years.

They’re not built that way anymore.

Yeah. So that’s the thing that’s interesting to me, because now you’re starting to talk about technology, history, like all these things like that that are sort of under the surface of what’s what’s showing.

It’s it’s fascinating the stuff you run into, you know, a little off the track of what you’re saying. But when you start, when you start going into these signs to get them restored, we we took down this SPCA sign. It’s up near where Ghostbusters Dent Busters is. I’ve known Stone. I knew about the signs. It had been repainted because it was obvious.

It wasn’t the message. It was on there. And I got a call from Tucson Historic Preservation saying the signs down on the ground, if we want it, we need to pick it up today. So we picked it up. I brought it back to the museum, and I spent about six hours with an orbital sander sanding through the paint, and I found four different messages on the sign, so we took it back.

I knew that the sign had been built in the late 40s early 50s, and I knew that this good one name you were.

Able to sand off just enough just to see that it.

Had been repainted and repainted and repainted. It wasn’t one where the paint, it had only been painted one time. It had started out as a as desert small animal hospital in the 40s, late 40s, early 50s. And the transformer that is from 1949. So that pretty much narrows down when it had to have been built, because it would have been.

Maybe it’s a transformer was made in 49. The sign was built in 50. The place was put together. The guy, whoever had it, sold it and it changed names to Tucson Small Animal Hospital. So the only thing they changed was the word Tucson colors were the same. And then that closed. They moved to the east side, which what I understand, it probably got it probably set just delinquent, delinquent, derelict for a period of time.

And it got red. The building got rented by South Tucson Animal Control. Okay. Which is interesting. And the color scheme went from green and gold to green, gold and white to white blue. And that was the first thing I found was after I sanded through the paint, I uncovered South Tucson Animal Control. And then when I sanded farther, I found a small animal hospital and I uncovered Tucson, which wasn’t what it was originally, and the neon holes were in the wrong place.

So I kept sanding around where the neon holes were, and I actually uncovered Desert Small Animal Hospital. So I actually got down to the original paint.

And so you’re approaching these the way an archeologist would look at a dig site. You’re so delicate.

You’re psychology. You know that virtually. That’s what you have to do, you know, and and sometimes, you know, old hotels, you just search online for postcards and you sometimes can find a postcard for the hotel, which will give you hints about what the graphics were, because we had the, at Pima College, we’ve got the you got the Arizona motel.

And on the other side, it’s the Arizona motel. No Copper State, it was the copper Copper State Motel. But when it came down, it was the Arizona motel, and we didn’t have a rest a week. We could see some of the ghost lettering under the paint, what was still there. But we actually found a matchbook, and that showed us what the script looked like.

And we kind of could see what the script was, but it helps. So you get it. You’ve got to look at a lot of resources.

That what you cook, you’re talking about, his passion for preserving signs. And there’ve been tequila’s ways in which he and his team go about making sure they’re they’re finding every element they can to to bring back the sign to its original glory. Part of our episode today, as we look back on 2020, for some of the people who have shaped Tucson and shared their stories with us, my name is Tom Heath.

You’re listening to life on the Street Car. We’re on downtown radio 99.1 FM and streaming on Downtown radio.org.

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Welcome back to the second half of our first show in 2025, as we’re looking at some of the people who shaped Tucson and, shared their stories with us in 2024. And, the next interview was a lot of fun for me. Not that all of the ones we did weren’t a ton of fun. David salutes, retired after 27 years at Hotel Congress and then found out that, Tiger of Tiger’s taproom was retiring as well.

And, of course, we just heard the news that Tiger has since passed. So I wanted to highlight both David and Tiger and share the brief. Part of that interview that we did with, David salutes back in June of 2024, a few days after, he retired.

Peas and carrots, peas and carrots.

Speaking of peas and carrots, what’s the menu at the Hotel Congress Cup Cafe these days? I don’t know. And why don’t you know?

I don’t know, because I haven’t been there in three weeks.

All right, but if you’re just joining us here, we are interviewing, Mr. David salutes. The David salutes who? I would do his intro, but then the show would be over. So I’ll just kind of talk through everything. He. If he gives me the eye roll because he doesn’t, I think he’s probably too humble to talk about all the things he’s done.

But let’s start with the most recent venture, the I guess most people probably know, but if they don’t, you’ve been at Hotel Congress for a while, but you just decided I’m done with the peas and carrots.

Well, yeah. I mean, I’ve been there for 27 years. I’ve had, most of the roles you could have at a place, and it’s been, you know, part of my life. In fact, on my going away party, I nearly got a whole co tattoo done with my bar manager just because I said that’s that’s over half of my life.

I mean, it’s about half my life. So in that place. So I love it dearly. However, an opportunity came along that said, this could be my great third act. And so we’re going to I’m going to pursue that.

Well, and this is the teaser, because the this third act is not yet publicly known. So we can ask you about this. Your publicist called me and said, do not ask him about this.

There is a cease and desist in NDAs left and right.

So so we will, we’ll just keep this as a teaser, but we will share the news as soon as, as we hear it. But this is an end of an era, 27 years. When you announced this on Facebook, there was an outpouring of of emotion, mostly like, mostly positive. What’s going to say was like a good for you, but bad for us.

But I mean, you’ve you’ve impacted so many people. And, and in those 27 years, has anyone else been in hotel Congress other than, like the sirens? And, I mean, has anyone been there, that little.

Miss Tiger Ziegler. Okay. 1959.

He just happened.

We just celebrated his birthday, two days before I left. And, you know, so he and I are basically retired in Congress about the same time. So he. So he wins.

He Tiger’s retiring as well.

He’s retiring as well. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. There’s all kinds of changes.

So I’m just full of the good news. Big news for you.

As, David salutes talking about his beginning, his time at that hotel Congress that launched a 27 year career. And towards the end there, he talked about Tiger and, Tiger’s tap room, as being, another iconic person that had been there for, I think, 60 plus years. And was was retired in 2024. And then just recently, just before the end of the year, we got news that, that the Tom Ziegler, who we know as Tiger, he passed away at the age of 91, there’s a nice article in the, the paper, and David salutes had a really nice, write up on his Facebook page talking about

Tom Tiger’s, travels from Iowa, coming to the Sonoran Desert and getting a job as a bartender, working his way up and and just being a part of the culture, the amount of people, the generations that he has seen, the iterations that, of downtown that he’s been a part of and, sadly, Tiger was not an interview guest of ours on the show.

We tried at one point and it just the timing didn’t work out. I forget exactly what had come up. And now I’m of course, kicking myself for not pushing that harder. But, we want to recognize not only David salutes contributions to hotel Congress in his 27 years, but Tom Tiger Ziegler, who passed away at the age of 91, in, December of 2024, want to thank him as well and recognize his contributions to our wonderful community here.

And in our last segment, as we talk about the people in 2024 that we recognized, Donovan Durbin, he did. He passed away prior to 2024. But, we we spoke with his widow, Erin, who was part of an effort, to get the Sixth Avenue, underpass redesign beautified and named in Donovan’s, memory. And his honor.

I’m happy to say that since our airing of that story, the city council unanimously passed the resolution. And there will be, an effort underway, to make, to make the underpass representative of Donovan. So I chose this section of of Aaron’s interview with us. And, of course, you can listen to the entire interview on the on the, on the, the website lifelong streetcar.org.

But I chose this because it talks a little bit about, Donovan’s first impressions of Tucson and what drove him here. And it ends with the talk about parking, which that’s that was the arc of Donovan’s, time here in Tucson. He did a tremendous amount of things, beautifying the city. He was so knowledgeable about history and culture.

He helped things like Second Saturday come to life. There’s just a tremendous wealth of of information and and support to make Tucson a beautiful, better place that that, he, he really enjoyed being a part of. And then it ended as he was helping to, to create the infrastructure to allow more people to enjoy it through his, his, dedication and passion for, for parking.

It’s just an amazing, amazing story. And this is a little bit of our interview with, with Aaron Durbin from, a few months ago, in October of 2024.

And he was like, man, Arizona is beautiful and Tucson is so queen, so cute. And it’s winter and you know it. It’s great. So we ended up transferring to the University of Arizona, and he just wanted to drive. Pizzas, deliver pizzas and not manage so he could focus on school. So he got, a position driving. And I wandered into the same Domino’s Pizza and got hired immediately.

The manager said, come back Friday night. Our guy who trains our drivers will be here same time.

Oh, my.

Came in that Friday night and they said, oh, darn, I waited around. He wasn’t there yet. And they came in. He’s like, this is Don. He’s going to train you. And basically the rest is history. We drove around that night. He taught me what we were supposed to be doing, but we just had a great conversation. You just wanted to talk about everything.

Families, music interests, whatever. We were interested in school. It was just so easy to talk to him. You know how he is. Yeah, he’s curious, and he just loves to talk fun.

And he mentioned he likes to talk about everything. That’s sort of his background. I was I was not surprised to learn that he had gotten his degree in urban and planning development, but I was very surprised to understand that, like his undergraduate work was, was in like, ecology and evolutionary biology.

Yes. He took he just kept taking classes. He was in school up to the day he passed away. He was still taking classes. So anything that interested him, he would take the class and eventually just started rolling them up into different degrees here and there. So yes, evolutionary biology and ecology. Yes.

And then he moved to Tucson. It was so the would have been with the 90s, early 90s, late 80s.

Correct. I believe he got here. I had the C we met in 91. So I think he was here even in 89. Okay. I would say.

That makes that makes sense. And you know, it’s one of I don’t think this is an isolated case to to to Donovan. But when someone passes you start to read about them and learn about them and realize the depth of, of, of who they are in such a way that you kind of wish you knew you’d spend that time when they were still with us.

You could talk to them about it. And I was know, doing some research for a show and, you know, I, I love Tucson, I’m involved with Tucson, but mine was sort of accidental. I sort of tripped into it like, oh my gosh, this is really cool. I should learn more with Donovan. Wasn’t that way. He was intentional. He went out and just started voraciously studying Tucson and the history and and and wanted to learn about this area.

And he hadn’t been here that long. He just was so interested in Tucson.

It’s true. Yes. He decided he wanted to go into urban planning. And at that time Tucson was kind of boarded up. Yeah, in the early 80s, early 90s, everything had moved to the malls, moved out of downtown. Businesses were all boarded up, but there was a small effort to try to get things moving again. He was just super interested in the history of every single building.

What was it? What kind of businesses? All the way back to, like, George Han’s map? Like, oh, man, that’s what that’s what we were looking at, when things were stables and little markets and things like that. Little inns, all the way to the modern time at the time.

And now here’s a here’s a moment of truth for Aaron. Was this interesting to you? Or. You’re like, this guy is crazy. What did I get myself into it?

It was interesting. And I was along for the ride, but it was just kind of like my life, every day, you know, with Donovan, I knew everything that was going on downtown. Now I’m kind of in the dark. I go walk downtown. I’m like, oh, that’s new. And oh, what’s going on here? But with him, I knew everything.

I knew everything that was coming, everything that was going, everybody that was planning something behind the scenes. It was just really neat to be along for the ride.

Well, from a professional standpoint, you know, his his curiosity wasn’t idle and he he moved that into, you know, I know he was the director of the I think the first director or one of the early directors of the Tucson Downtown Alliance, which eventually evolved into the Downtown Tucson Partnership. But during his time, like you’re saying, this was this was in the late 90s, early, early aughts, and Tucson was not like downtown was not that thriving spot.

So he, he was put in a in a position to, to try to make that a, make that a reality. And I was on the ground floor of all those transformations.

That’s right. And then he and he wanted to be part of any group or board or committee, anything he could do, he would walk the streets, he would find visitors. Where are you going? Do you need help getting there? If it was all about connection.

Yeah. And that and actually, you know, like the second Saturday effort and, and you know, the film for all these things that had he had his, his hands on was just amazing. I knew he was involved. But to, to be in such so quietly and, and humbly, you know, he wasn’t out there saying, I’m making all this happen.

It seemed like he was just very interested in it happening, whether he was credited or not.

That’s correct. Yeah. He just wanted he wanted things to happen. It’s happening downtown. Remember that phrase from from the Alliance? It’s happening downtown. And that was just gave to him. Anything he did in the film, the film festivals. The talk is the Bulls, Tucson Thunder. Remember that one?

I don’t remember that one.

A dance that could happen downtown. That was the Harley-Davidson stuff on that motorcycle. I mean, even motorcycles. He does not ride a motorcycle, but he was just interested in connecting any event to any anybody that could get their eyes on downtown Tucson. And an event could happen there, or somebody could build a business or anything we could get.

And it was important to him.

Well, I, I met Donovan for the first time, middle like 2015 ish when I, when I had started to, started to get involved with what’s downtown in its development. And at the time that he was the administrator for Park Tucson. And so that’s how I got to know him, was the parking guy. And I had no idea of all this history that had led him to that.

And I remember asking him at some point what what excited him about parking, like, how did he get into parking? He was a I think it was on one of the podcast. And again, his his data driven mine was just like, this is how you like parking is is it? This is this is all the data you need.

You can tell who’s going where, who’s staying, how many people make everything about parking for him. It was it was so exciting. I could not believe someone. Was that into.

Parking? Yeah. He would go out in the evenings, like 11:00 at night, midnight, 2:00 in the morning and do parking counts downtown and fourth Avenue. And there’s data driven mine. Just like what you said. He wanted to know who was parking where and for how long, and how many people were on a block. And how could we squeeze in more parking?

You have to manage parking. And people are like, why isn’t the parking just free? Well, it used to be free on Fourth Avenue. And who was parking there? It was. All the students from the University of Arizona would park there for eight hours and go to class. It was the downtown employees that would park there for eight hours and go to work.

And then the people who wanted to shop Fourth Avenue couldn’t park there. So he was instrumental in bringing parking to Fourth Avenue. And then he, you know, turned it into the technology or, you know, using an app. There’s money and all of that, and you have to and now people can drive up Fourth Avenue and maybe find a parking spot.

Aaron Durbin, the widow of Donovan Durbin, recently recognized and honored with the sixth Street underpass being redone in his and his name and celebration of his life. Thanks for listening to our wrap up of 2024. People who have helped to shape Tucson way back with a fresh new episode next week with Brittany Battle and Chris Dodge talking about Tucson Jazz Fest, an upcoming show on Valentine’s Day.

Well, my name is Tom Heath. I’m the host and producer, but I have a team that makes this all work so well. And that’s James Portis, our production specialist. Amanda Loftus, our production assistant. Opening music is always by Ryan Hood. And we’re leaving you today with, David Salutes own band, Sidewinders. We don’t do that anymore. My name is Tom Heath.

Have a great week and tune in next Sunday for more life along the Street car.

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