Taking a Stand Against Deed Fraud with Lisa Nutt

🏡 What is Deed Fraud? – A rising form of identity theft where criminals forge documents to steal property, leaving homeowners vulnerable.

🕵️‍♂️ How Does It Happen? – Fraudsters use fake identities and forged paperwork to transfer ownership, often selling homes before the real owner even knows.

🚨 Who’s at Risk? – Homeowners, renters, heirs, and families—anyone connected to a property can be affected by this crime.

🔑 How Can You Protect Yourself? – Sign up for Pima County’s Fraud Notify System, check property records regularly, and work with trusted real estate professionals.

📢 Tucson Association of Realtors Steps Up! – Lisa Nutt and TAR are leading efforts to prevent deed fraud by advocating for legal protections, educating the public, and working with local officials.

📜 Arizona’s Legal Gaps – Currently, state laws don’t offer clear solutions for victims, making it difficult to reclaim stolen property without expensive legal battles.

📌 What’s Next? – More public awareness, legislative changes, and proactive fraud prevention measures are needed to make Tucson safer from this crime.

📬 Get Involved! – Contact Lisa Nutt at [email protected] to learn more or share your story.

🎧 Listen Now & Share! – Catch the full episode on SoundCloud and spread the word to help protect Tucson homeowners! 🚀

Imagine waking up one day to find out that, on paper, you no longer own your home. A fraudster has filed forged documents, stolen your identity, and taken possession of your property—without you ever knowing it. This isn’t just a hypothetical scenario; it’s happening right here in Arizona and across the country.

This growing crime is called deed fraud (or title theft), and most homeowners don’t even realize they’re at risk. In this episode of Life Along the Streetcar, we sit down with Lisa Nutt from the Tucson Association of Realtors to uncover the truth about deed fraud, how to protect yourself, and what’s being done locally to stop it.

Lisa has been working for years to educate the public, advocate for stronger protections, and collaborate with officials to make Tucson a more secure place to own property. Whether you’re a homeowner, renter, or just a concerned citizen, this episode is packed with essential insights that could help you—or someone you love—avoid becoming a victim.

What is Deed Fraud, and How Does It Happen?

Deed fraud is a highly deceptive crime that often flies under the radar until it’s too late. Criminals use forged documents and stolen identities to illegally claim ownership of a property. Once they’ve taken control, they might:

• Sell the home to an unsuspecting buyer.
• Take out loans against the property, cash out, and disappear.
• Rent it out and collect money under false pretenses.

One of the most alarming aspects of deed fraud is that it can happen without the homeowner realizing it. If the rightful owner isn’t actively monitoring public records, they might not find out about the fraud until they try to sell their home—or, worse, when an eviction notice arrives at their door.

Lisa shares how she first discovered this crime and why she made it her mission to fight back. The problem isn’t just affecting homeowners—renters, heirs, and entire families can be impacted when fraud occurs. And with Arizona’s fast-moving real estate market, criminals are finding more opportunities than ever to slip through the cracks.

The Tucson Association of Realtors is Taking Action

As a leader in Member Services, Professional Development, and School Administration at the Tucson Association of Realtors (TAR), Lisa Nutt has been at the forefront of educating real estate professionals, lawmakers, and homeowners about deed fraud.

Under Lisa’s guidance, TAR has been working alongside the Arizona Legislature, the Pima County Recorder’s Office, and the Arizona Attorney General’s Office to:

✔️ Push for stronger legal protections against deed fraud.
✔️ Encourage the use of Pima County’s “Fraud Notify” system, which alerts homeowners when their name appears in property records.
✔️ Develop better verification systems to prevent fraudulent transactions before they happen.
✔️ Educate Tucson’s real estate professionals so they can spot the warning signs early.

But there’s still a long way to go. As Lisa explains, Arizona’s current laws don’t provide a clear legal path for victims to reclaim their property. That means homeowners often need to hire lawyers and fight for years to prove they were scammed. That’s why advocacy and awareness are more important than ever.

How You Can Protect Yourself Right Now

The good news? You’re not powerless against deed fraud. Lisa shares practical steps every Tucsonan can take to reduce their risk and stay ahead of scammers:

🔹 Sign up for Pima County’s Fraud Notify System – This free service alerts you when your name appears on property records. It’s a crucial early warning system. Sign up here (link to Pima County Recorder’s site).

🔹 Regularly check your property records – Take a few minutes every few months to search your name in county property databases. If something looks off, report it immediately.

🔹 Be cautious with personal information – Many fraudsters gather details from public records, social media, or phishing scams. Protecting your data is protecting your home.

🔹 Work with trusted professionals – If you’re buying or selling a home, a reputable real estate agent and title company can help ensure all transactions are legitimate.

Lisa’s message is clear: Deed fraud is preventable, but only if people know the risks and take action.

Join the Fight Against Deed Fraud

Deed fraud is a real and growing threat, but Tucson has leaders like Lisa Nutt working to make our community safer. If you own a home, know someone who does, or simply care about protecting Tucson’s residents, now is the time to act.

💡 Concerned about deed fraud? Contact Lisa Nutt at [email protected] for more information and resources.

🎙️ Have a story to share? If you’ve been impacted by deed fraud or know of an interesting Tucsonan making a difference, we’d love to hear from you! Contact us at [email protected].

📢 Help spread the word! Share this article with friends and family, and encourage them to listen to Life Along the Streetcar for more stories that shape Tucson’s urban core.

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Let’s stand together and protect Tucson’s homeowners!

Tom Heath
Good morning. It’s a bit of sun in the old pueblo. And you’re listening to Katy Tucson. Thank you for spending part of your brunch hour with us on your downtown Tucson community. Sponsored, all volunteer powered rock and roll radio station. This week we’re going to speak with Lisa Nutt from the Tucson Association of Realtors about the risks of deed fraud.

Tom Heath
It’s a lesser known form of identity theft that impacts not just homeowners, but renters as well. She’s going to share with us how she’s been working on this for years and, her plans to educate the public on recognizing the warning signs and protecting themselves. Today is February 9th, 2025. My name is Tom Heath, and you’re listening to life Along the Street.

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Tom Heath
Sometimes it pops up, sometimes it doesn’t. But more often than not, now I think it’s getting there. We’ll get to an informative show for you again this week, but we want to remind you of a show we did a few weeks ago with Cris Dodge and Brittany Battle. Talking about an event coming up this Friday, which happens to be a Valentine’s Day and, taking place at the Cabaret Theater, which is the upstairs at the Arizona Theater Company there on on.

Tom Heath
Scott, it’s, again, Cris Dodge and, Brittany Battle are teaming up for their second concert, this one with some of the most legendary romantic songs performed. Tickets are available. More information? It’s at our website called events.humanities.com. It’s h humor and I t x because she’s using this to raise some money. And it’s called, the, the thing, it’d be the, specific one you’re looking for is a jazz affair.

Tom Heath
It’s Friday from 8:00, and, it’s on Scott Avenue in downtown. Our guest today is Lisa. Not from the Tucson Association of Realtors. We invited her in to talk about something else that’s not really well known outside of the real estate community. Starting to get some press, and honestly, maybe even within the real estate community might not have a tremendous amount of recognition.

Tom Heath
It’s something called deed fraud, and it’s just very nefarious way people are taking control of properties in some cases without ever having stepped foot in there. And they’re manipulating the system in a way that’s creating some challenges. And Lisa has been working on this for several years now and has some thoughts on how you can identify and protect yourself.

Tom Heath
Or at least I want to welcome you. I guess I was going to say back, but this is a different you’re a new digs and new digs and.

Lisa Nutt
Doing new.

Tom Heath
Things. And last time I think we had you on, was part of a podcast we were doing in the real estate world, and now we have you on our Life Along the Street Car podcast. So I guess welcome back to my world and welcome to this, this particular.

Lisa Nutt
Audience and say thank you. I’m glad to be back. You actually had me on life on the Street car when I was, chairing a committee for the Tucson Association of Realtors, and we had a housing fair.

Tom Heath
I remember the houses coming up.

Lisa Nutt
Yep, yep. So, so I guess I am that. Okay.

Tom Heath
Well welcome back. And that shows you what kind of research your host is doing. Right. On the topic today, it’s it’s a little bit, it’s very specific to a group, to a, a specific need. And you’ve been working on this for years. But let’s take a quick step back, because if those that remember either of those interviews, you were in a different role then than you are now.

Tom Heath
So you are now with the Tucson Association of Realtors.

Lisa Nutt
I am I was, asked to consider coming on a staff. I had volunteered with the association from the time I became licensed as a real estate agent. So, took a little bit of time to think about that and decided to accept the the role. And I now lead member services professional development for the association. And I also am school administrator because we also have a school.

Lisa Nutt
And so.

Tom Heath
Yeah, those are three distinctly different roles.

Lisa Nutt
They are although they’re synergistic.

Tom Heath
Yeah, I get them, I get that we, you know, I remember when you took the position, I was like, that kind of makes sense. She was already spending all of that time. You mean you were traveling to the state to state capital? You were doing all kinds of things as a volunteer, trying to manage your, very successful real estate business on the side.

Tom Heath
I think you’re like, you know what? I’m, I’m here every day anyway, let’s.

Lisa Nutt
Let’s just it wasn’t much of a transition. I gotta say.

Tom Heath
I think what your first day people were like, what do you mean it’s your first day. It’s your first day.

Lisa Nutt
Weren’t you just here on Friday?

Tom Heath
Why are we celebrating her? She. That happens. Oh, she so briefly. Tucson association rules. Realtors tell us this is a, probably the largest trade association.

Lisa Nutt
It’s the largest registered association in southern Arizona. Yep. Over 6500 members. We are the professional association for, real estate agents, but also our members make up a whole host of affiliates, including lenders like yourself. Home inspectors. Right. We also have appraisers. So it is the industry association.

Tom Heath
And kind of, what are some of the goals of the association in general? Is it obviously it’s about the trade, but it’s also, protecting consumers throughout the process.

Lisa Nutt
Right. Advocacy is a huge part of the work we do. Advocacy education, which is mostly my role. I continuously merge those two things together, of course, connecting the community and serving.

Tom Heath
Okay. I know I’ve been involved on and off for ten plus years with this. Probably. I am probably more than that. That’s the point where they put me on staff. But there was a point where I thought maybe I should, and, recognize mostly there’s a really strong and dedicated staff, but a lot of the work is done by volunteers.

Lisa Nutt
Indeed, it is a partnership. We couldn’t do our work as staff without our volunteer leaders. We have 18 committees, on the association. And when I say the association, it really is three different entities under the umbrella of the association. So we have the association. We also have the multiple listing service of Southern Arizona, which is an entity unto itself.

Lisa Nutt
And then we also have our charitable foundation. And all three of those organizations have their own boards of directors, committees.

Tom Heath
So one staff. Right.

Lisa Nutt
That’s in.

Tom Heath
Standstill services, all.

Lisa Nutt
Of the supports at all. Yes.

Tom Heath
For three different, chairs of the board to to please you. My number one priority today. Right. Shoot. Well, the the work that you have done, that we talked about on the, on the mortgage side of things when I was doing that podcast. And we’ll of course link to that in the information for this one so people can get a a look at that was, it was really specific to an effort you were taking on of working on ways of identifying, fixing and ultimately preventing,

Lisa Nutt

Tom Heath
Deed fraud. Thank you. Yeah. Different names popped into my head there. And I remember this became such a hot topic. And in my mind, up until it became a hot topic, I had no idea what it was.

Lisa Nutt
Right.

Tom Heath
And I can you kind of give us the background of what you did?

Lisa Nutt
Fraud is. Sure. So it did. Fraud is mostly what it is termed. Sometimes you’ll hear it as title theft. It is a combination of just fraud in general and identity theft. Generally. The goal of the crime is to seize possession of property and then either sell it or leverage it in a way that the criminals want to use it.

Lisa Nutt
I came upon both the term and the crime on my nightly reading raid. I start and end my days by reading, and one of the articles I came across was about a case in the Phoenix area, and it had garnered some national attention, and in this case, the rightful owner of the property had passed away. And, the fraudster had impersonated them and an eye buying company.

Tom Heath
Well, I explain that really briefly.

Lisa Nutt
Sure. Yeah. So I buyers are companies that generally use technology and algorithms to identify properties, make offers, usually in cash, with a very quick turnaround time. And their business model includes flipping the property. Right. So they’ll do minimal, upgrades or repairs or even remodeling in order to resell the property. So their intention is not to hold the property.

Lisa Nutt
They’re wanting to buy it quickly, as cheaply as possible, and then turn it around and resell it.

Tom Heath
So in this particular case, you have a, a deceased property owner. Someone has assumed their identity, taken possession of the property, at least appearing to take possession of the property. And then you’ve got this company coming in that’s really looking at numbers and not all the data.

Lisa Nutt
Correct. And, and, and frankly, all of the best practices that we use as real estate agents and realtors weren’t, happening in this particular transaction. So the fraudster impersonates the rightful owner, sells it to the eye buyer in the midst of them getting ready to resell it, the executor of the estate becomes aware. And it so happens they are a realtor and, exposed the crime and set about their own journey right to to incorporate and learn all of the lessons on how this could have happened and what needs to change.

Lisa Nutt
And so that’s how I became aware of the crime.

Tom Heath
And what time frame was this?

Lisa Nutt
This was in, gosh, 2020, 2021. So the market also contributed in terms of the speed of the market. Right. And and some of those best practices falling by the wayside because of the speed of the market, the lack of inventory, the demand for purchase, and especially in the Phoenix area. I remember in my own business, I was I was calling it warp speed, right?

Lisa Nutt
And I was having to prepare both buyers and sellers for just the sheer, speed that we were dealing with. And I remember in one case, I sold a property in four hours. In another case, I had 20 showings in a four hour time frame. Right. So that didn’t help.

Tom Heath
At least enough. The Tucson Association of Realtors, she’s talking about, a lesser known form of identity theft called deed fraud and talking about how this can happen to homeowners, which not only affects them, but potentially renters and others that are connected to the property, families, heirs, etc.. And she’s, kind of sharing the work that she’s done.

Tom Heath
When we get back, we’re going to dig more into some of the preventative measures, how to identify and protect yourself. But first, I want to remind you that you’re listening to Elyse along the streetcar on Downtown Radio 99.1 FM and streaming at Downtown radio.org.

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Tom Heath
All right. We’re going to jump back into this interview you’re doing with Lisa. Not from the Tucson Association of Realtors. If you’re just tuning in shame on you from us in the first half. But I’ll catch you up very quickly. Lisa has been working for a few years now on something called deed fraud, helping people identify and prevention work with the state legislature, the Pima County Recorder.

Tom Heath
She has been very active in providing solutions to, something that is not very commonly understood, but definitely can have a negative impact on not just a person, but also on a family and, and anybody else that’s connected with the house, whether they be renters. Or the homeowners themselves. So we’re gonna jump back in there and talk about some of the work that she’s been doing.

Tom Heath
And again, some tips to identify and prevent deed fraud. We’ve come across this in 2020, 2021, some of that time frame and decide, oh, I want to spend the next four years of my life working on this.

Lisa Nutt
I have nothing else going on. Well, it became then the question of, oh gosh, how are we protecting and preventing this from happening again? Right. Because I thought, this is my bailiwick. Like, this is my livelihood. This is absolutely in my wheelhouse. And and what do I need to learn about it? And then what do I need to do about it?

Lisa Nutt
And so that’s how I became engaged initially and then informed and ultimately empowered to understand and identify what I’m calling the gaps in the ecosystem. And then, at the same time, at the state level, the state legislature, had become aware of the issue and legislation had been passed to require counties to implement a voluntary notification system by 2025.

Lisa Nutt
That’s literally the only thing the law says. It’s two sentences. Right. And that was passed, and set about what the Pima County Recorder’s Office has done, which is to implement an opt in notification.

Tom Heath
System and think that’s when you and I talked about it that had just been released when you and I spoke about this topic last.

Lisa Nutt
Year. Yes.

Tom Heath
And I remember I opted in right afterwards and I will get notices that says, hey, your name is this. And, just so you know, this is what’s happening.

Lisa Nutt
Correct. And because that notification system is, as I said, opt in, meaning that you have to go in. And in our case, it’s a two step process. You create an account with the Pima County Recorder’s Office. That information is verified. Then you enroll in what the recorder’s office calls fraud notify. And that system is also at a name level.

Lisa Nutt
So you got to enter different iterations of your name. Right. And so that’s important to let people know because our legal name might be one what we use and other documents could be another. Right. So there’s different variations to our name in our world, though, by the time something gets to the recorder’s office, it’s a done deal.

Lisa Nutt
So there’s a lot of work that can be done to prevent this type of crime from even getting to the recorder’s office. But these criminals are quite brazen, and they are not only falsifying documents, but they’re creating documents that are available online and submitting them as legitimate, because one of the gaps is that not all information is publicly available.

Lisa Nutt
And so it meant that the first thing I did was to identify and convene a group of stakeholders. And it ended up being about 30 of us in a room discussing this issue.

Tom Heath
Across the state.

Lisa Nutt
Across our area, our region. Because once I understood that the legislation indicated that it’s at a county level, you all are going to have to figure this out was when I thought, okay, well, I happen to have relationships in Pima County, and so I feel like there’s something I can do about it.

Tom Heath
Well. And what what where are we now? What is the the why are we talking about?

Lisa Nutt
Yes. Which is exciting up there. This just.

Tom Heath
The same stuff I.

Lisa Nutt
Can’t tell you right now. And it cut. So fraud notify, right? Needs to still in the county’s database, there’s over 435,000 property owners. There’s only about 1500 who have enrolled in the notification system. Right. So I will keep beating that drum until we get much closer to the 435,000. So still. Right. Enroll in the fraud Notify program through the county recorder’s office.

Lisa Nutt
Really? Excitingly, though, the county assessor changed their process. When it comes to how records are updated. So in my world, right as a real tour, that is the final step, right? So we go through a transaction, it closes, then there’s Recordation. We can hand over the keys. Then the final step is for the county assessor’s database to be updated to reflect that change in the property’s ownership.

Lisa Nutt
Now not only so but situations change, right? Not only through sales and things like that. But now if you request a change through the Pima County Assessor’s Office, you have to present identification, government issued identification that will be cross-referenced with MVD records. And this is one of the ways that the assessor because up until these discussions, there was no way to really substantiate that someone presenting themselves as the property owner and having the right to change the record is.

Lisa Nutt
And so they’ve instituted these identity verification steps in order to protect the the property owners. In a process like that.

Tom Heath
It just seems like such a simple fix.

Lisa Nutt
And yet it took nearly a year, for that change to be instituted, because of course, there had to be legal review. There were, liability questions and concerns.

Tom Heath
So who is responsible for for the for checking that I.D. then? Is it if you’re doing a sale that happens at the title company, do they I mean who does the cross-referencing.

Lisa Nutt
So there’s different due diligence that occurs throughout the life of the transaction. And and I like to say hopefully a real tour is involved. Right. Because there are multiple, individuals and entities that are involved in any transaction. As you know, half a dozen easily. Right? So they’re all doing we’re all doing our due diligence. On the verification side, mostly that hero’s work is being done by title and escrow, okay.

Lisa Nutt
And in some cases they’re going back four and five generations to verify that. Again, who’s presenting themselves, especially as the seller is actually the legitimate seller title in escrow, have also changed some of their practices and some of them not all, but some are even sending letters or packets to the sellers as a way of verifying something like congratulations on your property being in escrow, and then verifying that in fact it is.

Tom Heath
And hoping they don’t get that phone call. What are you talking about?

Lisa Nutt
I I’m not telling my property right. So title that esco are developing devising different practices for them to be able to again substantiate right that the individuals presenting themselves as either legitimate sellers and or buyers are in fact legitimate. Sometimes attorneys are surfacing, because part of what I also learned is that there is a lack of legal remedy for people who do end up falling victim to this type of crime.

Lisa Nutt
Our state laws are currently insufficient. So how we define fraud, for example, how we define identity theft? Some states have laws that are called property forfeiture laws, meaning that if, property was part of an illegal act there, the law provides for the property to be returned to the rightful owner. Right now, the only way that can be done is by someone hiring attorneys, because when fraudulent documents are recorded, you can’t take them back.

Lisa Nutt
Other documents have to be recorded that then, you know, supersede or verify.

Tom Heath
And you have two victims there. You have the person that legitimately bought the property, you know, thinking the seller was acting in.

Lisa Nutt
Good faith.

Tom Heath
And then you have the wrong. So you have two different entities fighting over that property. They both have a case for fraud.

Lisa Nutt
Right. And so my intention and goal was really just making it an desirable and not palatable for them to want to do their business here. Right. And so we have the notification system at the county recorder’s office, but our own title and escrow plant members also developed their internal notification system that is at a property level.

Tom Heath
And just really briefly, because we’re just using terms title plant, it’s not like, a stooge that was a planter. It’s a, it’s a the title companies have gotten together and basically created a mirror of the public records so that they can then they can go a little bit more quickly.

Lisa Nutt

Tom Heath
Than that. That’s so with, with this as we’re wrapping up here, where do people stay in touch or get in touch if they’ve been a victim or if they’ve got concerns? Does the association of a website is there?

Lisa Nutt
So the Arizona Department of Real Estate has asked that these types of complaints be reported to them. One of the other updates is that the Arizona Attorney General’s office now is investigating all, you know, allegations of deed fraud. And so submit those complaints to the Arizona Department of Real Estate. Of course, we can help put people in touch.

Lisa Nutt
We have resources that will be coming up on our website. Again, links to the county recorder’s office and the fraud Notify program. And on the Pima County Assessor’s Office, you can see the instructions for how to request changes to their database.

Tom Heath
Someone from the public reach out to you directly if they solutely. And how would they do that?

Lisa Nutt
They would do that by emailing me at Lisa n at Tucson realtors.org.

Tom Heath
All right. Well we will on the video portion that will post that for, for people to see. So we’ll add that information in the, in the Facebook post that we put out to to share the, the podcast.

Lisa Nutt
And we are hoping because the other bit was that we engaged certainly, several state legislators on the issue. And the legislative session just opened this week. And, I have, you know, generously shared all of my information and resources with them. So there might be some additional legislation coming.

Tom Heath
Out of the course. And maybe we got four sentences will double the effort.

Lisa Nutt
Yeah.

Tom Heath
At least, you know, since that association of realtors talking about a very important topic here of deed fraud, one of the many things that the association is working on to protect consumers and property rights here in southern Arizona. And, as a member, you know, full disclosure, I’m a member and a fan of the work being done and appreciate the fact that you are actually moving from volunteer to staff and can really focus 100% of the attention on, on the duties instead of trying to run that pesky little real estate business.

Lisa Nutt
Although it still exists. Yes.

Tom Heath
Are you still doing that too?

Lisa Nutt
I do.

Tom Heath
Oh my gosh. Okay. All right. So, we’ll we’ll have to have you back and talk about that.

Lisa Nutt
Thank you. Yeah.

Tom Heath
That’s Lisa.

Lisa Nutt
Glad and grateful to be back.

Tom Heath
That’s Lisa Knapp from the Tucson Association of Realtors. I’ve talked to her, on a, and on other occasions through a podcast and, show that I’ve been doing as part of the the my mortgage professional world and wanted to kind of get her into a, a more mainstream audience because I outside of the real estate community, I don’t think this topic has too much, understanding.

Tom Heath
And, and she is really working hard to bring some clarity as well as some solutions to that. And then I appreciate her efforts in that matter. My name is Tommy. You are listening to Life Along the Streetcar in Downtown Radio 99.1 FM, and we’re streaming on Downtown radio.org.

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Tom Heath
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We’re ready to. Not anything. But you know what I mean. Our production specialist is James Portis. He’s, assisted by Amanda. Mulattos. The assistant, production assistant. My name is Tom Heath. I’m the host and producer. And we’re always thankful for Ryan Hood, for giving us the courtesy of letting us use their song Dillinger Days to start the show.

Tom Heath
And we’re going to leave you a little Johnny Cash in honor of Lisa. And I think this is an appropriate song from his 2000 American three Solitary Man album. It’s his version of I Won’t Back Down. I hope you have a great week and tune in next Sunday for more life along the street. Car. Well, I won’t back down low.

Tom Heath
I won’t back down. You can stand me up at the gates of hell.