
Threads of Tucson: Cele Peterson’s Impact on Fashion, Business & Community
Episode Highlights
Fashion & Business Legacy
- How Cele transformed Southwestern fashion with her innovative “Station Wagon Togs” – rugged yet stylish outfits for independent women.
- The secrets behind Cele’s 80-year business success, outlasting economic shifts and retail trends.
- Why she kept her store in Downtown Tucson even as businesses fled and how she helped launch El Con Mall as Tucson’s first major shopping center.
Tucson’s Evolution & Cele’s Influence
- Her role in revitalizing and preserving Downtown Tucson, ensuring local businesses thrived despite suburban expansion.
- How Cele’s business acumen went beyond fashion—she was a civic leader who influenced policy, urban development, and cultural institutions.
- Why City High School now occupies her former storefront, keeping her legacy alive in education.
Cele, Linda Ronstadt & the Tucson Music Scene
- How Cele Peterson helped shape Tucson’s early music culture.
- The unexpected story of Linda Ronstadt’s first performances—inside Cele Peterson’s store!
- Cele’s deep friendship with Gilbert Ronstadt (Linda’s father) and their shared vision for Tucson’s cultural growth.
The Mystery of Cele’s Unfinished Book
- What happened to Cele’s manuscript, filled with personal stories and entrepreneurial insights?
- Why the book was never published—will her family revive it in the future?
Rodeos, Architecture, & Cultural Impact
- Cele’s influence on the Tucson Rodeo Parade, one of the city’s longest-standing traditions.
- How she hired top architects to design her home and business spaces, shaping Tucson’s aesthetic.
- Her belief that fashion extended beyond clothing—it was a way of life that influenced everything from business to city planning.
Why You Should Listen
If you love Tucson, you need to know Cele Peterson’s story.
She wasn’t just a fashion icon—she was a community leader, an advocate for change, and a driving force in shaping the city we know today.
Listen now and celebrate the woman who built Tucson!
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Episode Description
Tucson has been shaped by many influential figures, but few have left a legacy as lasting, diverse, and impactful as Cele Peterson. Known nationally as a fashion innovator, she was also a pioneering businesswoman, a champion for local retail, a community activist, and a cultural icon.
In this second part of our Women’s History Month tribute, we move beyond Cele’s early life and activism to explore her role as an entrepreneur, business leader, and cultural influencer. Joining us again is Dan Buckley, the Tucson journalist and historian who spent time documenting Cele’s life before her passing in 2010.
What does Tucson retail, rodeos, and rock ‘n’ roll legend Linda Ronstadt all have in common? Cele Peterson.
Cele Peterson: The Entrepreneur Who Built a Business and a City
From Fashion to Fortune
Cele Peterson wasn’t just a dressmaker—she was a fashion visionary. In the 1950s, she redefined women’s Western wear by introducing “Station Wagon Togs”, rugged yet stylish outfits designed for independent, active women of the Southwest. Her fashion-forward thinking placed Tucson on the map as a retail destination, attracting customers from all over the region.
A Retail Pioneer Who Helped Shape Tucson’s Growth
At a time when downtown Tucson was the heart of business, Cele kept her store thriving on Pennington Street, even as larger retailers fled to suburban malls. But she wasn’t just holding onto the past—she was shaping the future. She was instrumental in the rise of El Con Mall, proving that she could adapt and lead Tucson’s retail evolution instead of resisting it.
Tucson’s Music Scene & The Ronstadt Connection
One of the most surprising stories in this episode is Cele’s connection to music legend Linda Ronstadt. Before she became a household name, Linda and her siblings performed some of their earliest gigs inside Cele’s store. Cele’s deep friendship with Gilbert Ronstadt, Linda’s father, further solidified her role in Tucson’s cultural landscape.
The Mystery of Cele’s Unfinished Book
Before her passing, Cele was working on a book that would capture the humor, heart, and hustle behind her success. Although the manuscript was completed, it was never published. Will her family eventually bring it to light? This episode explores the lost stories of Cele Peterson that may one day be rediscovered.
Rodeo, Architecture, and Tucson’s Cultural DNA
From helping organize the Tucson Rodeo Parade to hiring top architects to design her home and retail spaces, Cele understood that fashion wasn’t just about clothing—it was about shaping the world around her. Her passion for history, design, and community-building still influences Tucson today.
A Legacy That Lives On
Even after her passing in 2010, Cele Peterson’s legacy continues: City High School now operates out of her former storefront.
She helped make Children’s Museum Tucson a reality.
Her bold business strategies kept her brand alive for 80+ years.
Her contributions to Tucson’s cultural events still impact the city today.
Tucson didn’t just shape Cele Peterson—she shaped Tucson.
Listen & Celebrate a Tucson Legend
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Tom Heath
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Tom Heath
Peterson. We’re gonna do this through the voice of our guest, Daniel Buckley, who had the privilege of documenting her life before her passing in 2010. Daniel and I spoke back in 2023, and we’re going to replay that interview for you. Wow. It’s gonna be a long show today, folks. And it is today, March 16th, 2025. My name is Tom Heath, and you’re listening to Life Along the Streetcar.
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Tom Heath
So it airs every Sunday here on Downtown Radio. And then we put it back out into the world on Spotify, iTunes, iHeart radio and many other platforms where you listen to your favorite podcast out there. What a what a weekend, man. Tucson Festival books this weekend. And I got to tell you, I was out there. May I mentioned this in the show before, but I’ve been volunteering for 15 years with them and on the operation side, and I was out there, when was it?
Tom Heath
Thursday. We had that incredible wind. And you can imagine being on the UVA campus, all of these tents are set up, the winds are blowing. And I look at some of these volunteers and there’s a couple in mind that, you know, they’re, Crystal and Sarah, they put they work year round, on and on, on making sure the signs are organized.
Tom Heath
You’ve got, you know, 300 tents and and half a dozen or probably 15 venues. And they all have to have signs and markers and all of these different things that, that, you don’t even think about when you’re there. They just sort of blend in. But these two lead a committee that that work on that year round, and they’ve been putting signs up all week and just seeing them on Thursday, going back through, having to take some signs down that had torn, putting, putting them back up and, you know, getting them ready for reinstallation after the, winds had settled that it should go, you know, they, you know, put that back up on Friday.
Tom Heath
Just so impressed, though, that, you know, the resiliency of of of the volunteers that put on the these events in Tucson. This was, a couple of dynamic women here that they put on, this, that work with the science, the Tucson Festival of Books. But they’re, the, the emblematic of of the passion. They weren’t complaining. They weren’t upset.
Tom Heath
I mean, I’m sure they were internally a little frustrated, but they were just doing it because it had to get done because the festival books were starting in a couple of days. So if you want to support them, there’s a few hours left. You can head down to the UVA campus. It’s the, Tucson Festival of Books. It’s free to the public.
Tom Heath
If you want more information, you can head over to our website. And just put in Tucson Festival books over there in life along the streetcar.org. And, you can find out all about the amazing work that they do in the community. And, some another episode we did on just the volunteers. And speaking of amazing people in our community, we’re finishing up our two part series here on Seal Peterson, and she’s, it’s just an iconic entrepreneur here in Tucson who has just don’t really fully understand the impact of someone, she until you start looking at their life and all of the threads that have come from their, their work and
Tom Heath
their efforts, and we’re what we’re doing is as part of our celebration of Women’s History Month, and we’re looking back at our interview with Seal Peterson. Well, with Daniel Buckley about Seal Peterson that we recorded in 2023. And so today we’re going to finish that up. We’ve kind of looked at her past. We’ve we talked a lot about Dan as well.
Tom Heath
He’s quite, quite a remarkable Tucson. And that was last week’s episode. And this week we’ll talk about Seal sort of this entrepreneurial spirit. And then again, her impact in our community.
Dan Buckley
Another of my my absolute favorite stories of hers was, you know, she had the store downtown on Pennington, and she talked one time about Christmas time and a guy who she just thought the world, knew him, knew his wife, you know, she and and Tom, apparently, you know, we’re very good friends for this couple. And the guy comes in before Christmas, and a sister will seal.
Dan Buckley
I need some presents. She said, okay, let me get a pad of paper, and you tell me who you got to take things out for, and I’ll. I’ll get your things together. And she’s okay. Well, of course I need, a present for my wife. I need a present for my maid. I need a present for my secretary.
Dan Buckley
I need a present for my cook. I need a present for my lover. I need a present for this that you know well, like she’s still stuck on a present for your lover. Oh. But she is the picture of will and discretion. And as he says, he needs these things. Well, you know, she’s going to do it.
Dan Buckley
So she puts together, you know, a gift for each one. And she, you know, runs through the whole list and everything with him. And she says to him, okay, I’m going to need addresses so that I can, you know, send these to the various people. And he says to her, well, just send everything to my house, because these are all for my wife.
Dan Buckley
She’s all those,
Tom Heath
That was that was a completely different direction than I thought it was going.
Dan Buckley
Oh, totally. Totally. And that was the beauty of SEO. And she really knew how to tell a story. Yeah, as as much as anything else. But, you know, you think of her accomplishments in the fashion world, but she really was some time before.
Tom Heath
We get into that because I definitely want to dive into that because that’s I mean, that’s sort of the the crux of SEO Peterson. But did this book ever get is going to be completed or where where is it in this production?
Dan Buckley
You know, here’s the deal. We got it done. And, you know, she was gone. And, you know, was short, very, very short. It would have been just a small little, little book. The the kids, her kids decided that they wanted to, you know, figure out what, what photo should go with it and stuff like that. Well, then she got cancer, and, you know, and I think the project just sort of fell by the wayside, and that’s a shame.
Dan Buckley
But I am reasonably certain someone in their family is going to dig it up and, bring it to fruition. It really is lovely. And, you know, it would be a shame not to. And just shows page after page after page, story after story, just what a charming and body at times. And, really just like no one else you ever met.
Dan Buckley
Yeah, she and I had the good fortune to know both her and Lalo Guerrero, the father of Chicano music, who was also born here in Tucson. You know, they were kind of cut from the same cloth. They knew each other. You know, and that generation really, really knew how to tell you a story.
Tom Heath
Yeah. I remember having Dan, Lalo son on the show and and, you know, it’s like my, my time in Tucson is, you know, after these legends have been here. So I’m, I’m looking for that, you know, those those connections in those pieces. And Dan was just, you know, it was just a really good interview about him and Lalo.
Dan Buckley
And yeah, you know.
Tom Heath
It was still I mean, you know, 1930 she starts to shop and it, I mean, it’s, it’s it’s the base of her business. She spends her days, you know, every day in the shop. And she, you know, from, from touching a, sewing machine and creating an earthquake. I mean, really, she did. Right? That’s what happened. The I mean, she everything got shifted around because of that, that fashion.
Tom Heath
But that’s what she was known for, you know, nationally. Correct? I mean, she was all over the place with with her.
Dan Buckley
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, she was the inventor of what she called the station wagon togs, which were, you know, and they in the 50s, women wore, you know, that standard of, you know, here’s the dress you wear. This is what every wife wears. Well, she’ll was like, you know, we’re in the West. It’s a different place. You got to make this stuff out of gene material and, you know, make it about this area.
Dan Buckley
She loved the southwest, you know? So, as I mentioned, she grew up in Bisbee, and her dad owned the local mercantile.
Tom Heath
And she wasn’t born in Missouri, though, right? She was born in Reno.
Dan Buckley
She was thought she was born in Florida. Okay. But they moved there when she was very small. I want to say 4 or 5 years old when when they moved there and, you know, their customers, there were everybody from the elite management of the mines to, as she referred to them, women who worked in a house that was not a home.
Dan Buckley
She a way of saying things, and and she had she had stories, you know, I mean, it was it was a going boom town when she was growing up there. And, so, you know, I mean, miner story, she, she literally saw a man’s sweat to his death in his bathtub when a flash flood went right through his house and just swept him away.
Tom Heath
Oh, my goodness.
Dan Buckley
She told a story about. She was always deathly afraid of crabs because she saw somebody get shot in a, you know, getting out of a cab in Bisbee in those days. So, you know, her Bisbee life really, really influenced everything. Her dad had been a tailor before he opened up that business. And, you know, so she kind of grew up with sewing skills and things of that nature.
Dan Buckley
She knew how things were, were put together. And she had, you know, nobody could snap off the five C’s of Arizona faster than steel Petersen and tell you every event that she had helped create to celebrate every one of those day. I mean, she she was, a great, great mind. Really a great mind.
Tom Heath
That’s the voice of Daniel Buckley. I interviewed with him back in 2023 about, the Tucson, power. That was, CL Peterson. She passed in 2010. Never had an opportunity to interview her. I honestly didn’t even have an idea of of a show in mind back in 2010. But we wanted to make sure that as we build out the show, we have a chance to look at those that have made Tucson such a special place.
Tom Heath
And Seal Peterson is one of those way back to finish up that interview with Daniel in just a moment. But first, I want to remind you that you’re listening to lifelong the streetcar in downtown radio 99.1 FM and streaming on downtown radio.org.
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Tom Heath
Well, we’re finishing up our interview, here with Daniel Buckley. It’s been AA2 part series. We started last week with the, a little bit of Dan’s history, and his relationship with Seal. Peterson got into her life and her legacy, talking a little bit more about her and her entrepreneurial spirit. And we’ll dive back into that here and, take a look at, really kind of what Tucson has to look back on and thank Seal Peterson for.
Tom Heath
And so she opens a store. And, I mean, at some point it’s in downtown, it’s on Pennington. And this is in the heyday of downtown. We’ve got all these stores, you know, Steinfeld, Levy’s everything’s down there. And then people start to slowly leave. And I understand she didn’t. She stayed as long as she possibly could in downtown with her store.
Dan Buckley
She did, but she also opened up branches elsewhere. That’s how Alcott began, was, you know, she saw the writing on the wall. She saw that downtown was not going to be where things were. And she had the the wherewithal to be willing to pull up stakes where the ones that died died right there. But, you know, again, leaves and and, you know, places like that.
Dan Buckley
Levy’s was the anchor at Alcott. So, you know, I think she probably talked that man to, you know, doing that, that enterprise to, that really got Alcott mall started. Don’t know that for a fact, but I’d be willing to wager if you dug it, the things you’d probably find. She had a a good deal to do with it.
Dan Buckley
Let’s play a testament to her brilliance is the fact that her business existed for probably another 8 to 10 years after she passed that 101 years, so that, you know, and she was like 20 ish when she started that business. So that’s, that’s a pretty hefty, you know, 81 year career. You got to be kidding me.
Dan Buckley
You know, I mean, gosh.
Tom Heath
Well, in everything, you know, in the legacy, you know, the things that I’ve learned over the years about, you know, there wouldn’t have been a, there wouldn’t have been a children’s museum without her. Right. You know, the the, the impact of that. And now it’s I think it’s so appropriate that City High has, you know, her store is part of their their campus.
Tom Heath
And, you know, the kids are being educated in that building. It’s just seems very, serendipitous.
Dan Buckley
She would love it, too, and love everything about it. It would just tickle her heart. No, I mean, absolutely. She she just. It would thrill her know and to know that, you know, she had done that.
Tom Heath
And as we’re recording this, you know, the rodeo is coming up. And that was a big piece of her.
Dan Buckley
Absolutely. Yeah. No, she was a big part of the rodeo parade. Well, actually, she and the Ronstadt family, who were, you know, Linda’s dad, Gilbert Ronstadt and his wife were, you know, she and Tom’s best friends. And. And that’s part of why, you know, Linda played there for her hundredth birthday. And, in fact, some of the first gigs that Linda and her brother Pete had with their group, were played at shield store.
Dan Buckley
So she always had her finger on the pulse of everything.
Tom Heath
So Linda Ronstadt is, getting her start in and seal Peterson stores.
Dan Buckley
Yeah. Well, you know, in terms of. Yeah, in those days, she was singing the, the o. And, part. So she referred to it behind her brother, Pete and her sister Susie, in this this I can’t remember. I think they were called the New Union Ramblers or something like that. And this is 1930s. This is, you know, she was still in high school at that point.
Dan Buckley
And, Linda, you know, Linda and and Sheila, very much kindred spirits. I mean, Linda graduated high school when she was 16 and went to the U of A, and, she says for about a minute, but, you know, school was not her thing. She really wanted to, you know, go to California and make a career in music.
Dan Buckley
And by God, she did it. And, you know, that’s its own incredible story.
Tom Heath
Yeah, that’s, you know, it’s I’m I’m just completely I mean, I thought the interview was going to help sort of clear things up in my mind because I’ve been reading so much and I’m, I’m just even more it you just can’t do justice to to seal Peterson without having, you know, years of time to, to that story.
Tom Heath
Her it’s.
Dan Buckley
It’s her everywhere.
Tom Heath
And her her her legacy and her influences are just there just to something just dripping with with, her success, even to this day.
Dan Buckley
Even in the, in the field of architecture, you know, she was one of the first ones to hire some of the greatest architects, you know, in the city to build her own house, to build her stores. You know, she I, as she used to say, fashion is life. And, you know, she would just reel off everything that you do in your life that is fashion.
Dan Buckley
And I never thought of or or, you know, anything that, you know is so much a common part of who we are as fashion until, you know, I said that was cool. I started talking about these things. She I that was the luckiest thing that ever happened to me was, well, that and I had a similar thing with, Gilbert Ronstadt with his dad, where I spent one whole summer every Wednesday, and we would start recording at one, and we would finish four, and then we’d shut off the recorders, and he would tell me the stories you could tell me on the record while we had some beers and, you know, it was kind
Dan Buckley
of like that was, you know, only minus the beers. But it was it was very good. You know, she those two lived a time in Tucson history that, I mean, it just leaves you slack jawed when you hear stories. You know, even Gilbert used to tell about, you know, hanging up your gun bell at the Santa Rita Hotel.
Dan Buckley
And she told me about there being cattle sales in the lobby of the Santa Rita. And, I guess it’s unimaginable, in our time. But, you know, that was just life in Tucson at that point.
Tom Heath
Well, then we’re going to have to, to talk much, much more often. This this is just you’re just a tremendous wealth of information and a connector to a to a part of our history that, is just fascinating. And I, I appreciate you taking the time and, and spending it with us today. And this is probably gonna end up being a two part episode because I just can’t.
Tom Heath
There’s nothing in here to to to edit down. This is just what needs to be told. And and I look forward to hearing your story in the future because you are very,
Dan Buckley
We’re well, thank you.
Tom Heath
Dynamic was the word that came to mind.
Dan Buckley
Tom Heath
Your flight and, and some of these other stories of people that you’ve gotten to interview and, you know, create maybe an oral tradition of some of their, some of their stories. And I look forward to to, seal Peterson’s, you know, book at some point making it to, to the public.
Dan Buckley
I, I really, you know, I really hope that they get back to it and, you know, take it on. I know her grandkids are very interested in it, you know, and, you know, the the unfortunate thing is our lives go on and things trying to get pushed by the wayside. I know I’ve got a couple projects of my own that have, you know, kind of gotten shoved into corners here, there and everywhere.
Dan Buckley
But, I hope I live long enough to get done, but we’ll find out the next exciting adventure. As I say.
Tom Heath
Well, then, thanks again for your time. And, we’ll definitely be in touch.
Dan Buckley
All right. Thank you. Tom. Pressure.
Tom Heath
All right, so thank you. Bye bye. That was the voice of Daniel Buckley. We were sharing his relationship with Seal Peterson and his time interviewing her before passing in 2010. My name is Tom Heath. You’re listening to life on the Street car in downtown radio 99.1 FM and streaming on downtown radio.org.
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It’s it’s fantastic. So we’ve got some shows lined up for you. We’re going to be talking about the sensory room and the, International Film Festival, the agave festival. All these things are coming up, over the next few weeks. But if there’s something out there you want us to cover, you know, let us know. That’s,
Tom Heath
The only way we’re going to know is if you let us know. Well, I have mentioned their names, but James Portis is our, production specialist. Amanda mulattos, our production assistant. My name is Tom Hayes. I am your host and producer. And as we roll out of here today, I just want to put out a last reminder that the two Sun Festival books, the one year event that happens, is running until 5:00 today.
Tom Heath
4:00 at 230. We’ve got to add Burns speaking and, on the, the ballroom stage. And then he is followed by Governor Whitmer from Michigan. So there’s lots of lots of good things to do. At the Festival of Books, today is just two of the hundreds of people that are out there. As always, our opening music is from Ryan Hood.
Tom Heath
And we’re going to leave you today with Helen Reddy. We found a song from 1972 that seemed appropriate for March and Women’s History Month and our celebration of Seal Peterson. This was recorded, like I said, back in 1972, and it’s called I Am Woman. I hope you have a great week and tune in next Sunday for more life along the streetcar.